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"Friendly relations" - Blackmore & Gillan


Why don't like they each other?What is the truth?

"...I can't stand unprofessional behaviour.Ian Gillan?Yes I'm the pain in his ass.I just don't like the man.He irritates me,especially when he couldn't remember the lyrics.Because of him Deep Purple turned into a cabaret-act."
    R.B. 1997

"-What was going through your head when Blackmore left the band five years ago?Ever thought of just calling it quits?
 -Well,the feeling up to that point was despair.Nobody wanted this to happen,but you know,when he left it was like...wow!Honestly,we were in a nosedive with Ritchie,there was no real future for this band.When he left,he made it very easy for us to pick it up again.When we were looking for a replacement,Steve was number one on everybody's list.
 -What happened when you left Purple in 1990-91?
 -I got fired in 1989!I was about to leave,I didn't like the way things were going.It was like in 1973-we were going down the wrong road,and I said so.So I was fired.We were in a nosedive approaching terminal velocity.We were playing poorly,Ritchie was throwing tantrums all over the place,which is funny once or twice,but we hardly ever finished a show.It just gets weary,you know?People get pissed off.Purple ended up working like a backup group for Ritchie."
    I.G. 1998

"-Do you think we will ever see Ritchie Blackmore back with Deep Purple?
 -No!I don't think so-Deep Purple have moved on,we have been together longer than any other incarnation of Deep Purple and still enjoying every minute.When Ritchie was with the bandafter the reunion in 1984 we were only playing to half full stadiums and arenas due to the fact that the fans were pissed off with the antics of the Banjo player.There is no doubt that Ritchie was the riff-master and that his playing was exquisite but this only meant that Ritchie was looking for the rest of Deep Purple to be his backing band and become another Rainbow.I wish Ritchie all the best but no I can not see him in any future Deep Purple Project!"
     I.G. 2002

"-What inspired Ian Gillan to leave in 1973?
 -I think Ian and I were both in tune when we first met.And his vocals on 'Child in time' were amazing.And what he used to do on stage was excellent.I personally didn't like 'Fireball' very much,because we were just working too much.If we had a day off,the management would have us go into the studio to try and make a next LP.But we had about a month off before 'Machine Head',which allowed me to get my head together to write some stuff.On 'Machine Head' we were still on the same wave length.But for 'Who Do We Think We Are' Ian and I were both in different worlds.I think we ran out of ideas.
 -You performed with Purple in the '90s,too,but left again in 1994.Why did you quit again?
 -I couldn't work with Gillan.I didn't feel he was taking it seriously.He was forgetting words every night,partying in general,and just blowing his voice out.I feel partying is great,but not at the expense of losing your voice..."
     R.B. 1998
     

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We'll never know the truth. Except of Roger publishes his memories. But I think that he said somewhere that some people have to be dead before he'll do this. So it seems that we have to wait quite a time...

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Gillan to me is an alpha male type personality..he loves to joke around, doesn't give two !@#$ what people think about him, does what he wants. Unfortunately RB is also an alpha male type personality...very similar to Gillan, but is much more uptight and likes things to be perfect. Those types of personalities just don't work well together.
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I remember a 1993 TV interview with Ritchie where he partly blamed himself for Gillan becoming "strange" after he (RB) in the early 70s knocked Gillan down from a barstool in Paris hitting the floor head first. Ever since then Gillan changed, became "different" according to Ritchie. Is there any truth to this story, or is it one of Ritchie's hilarious jokes ? It sure sounded funny when he told it ! emoticon
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daschrier wrote:

Gillan to me is an alpha male type personality..he loves to joke around, doesn't give two !@#$ what people think about him, does what he wants. Unfortunately RB is also an alpha male type personality..... but is much more uptight and likes things to be perfect........



Yes agree about them being Alpha types, and the differences BUT.......

OK, I know I'm biased, but you might be suprised to know how I see things with this bunch!

I've always been very careful when people start "partying" in excess. It can sometimes hide depression. So, I wouldn't be completely fooled by all the clowning and high jinks.

Look at the lyrics to SIFLS.
I wonder if they reflect anyone's real-life experience?
Of course they do. Its why the song works.
The chorus always makes me cringe.......
What a state to end up in.emoticon


Then there was the infamous "Northern Caucusus Brewery Tour" circa 1989. emoticon
Suprise: It happened after he'd been sacked from DP.
[Didn't IG's wife, and either her sister or her mother, have to go out to Georgia or Azerbaijan to knock some sense into him?]

I also had a link to a rather nasty story from a German news site, which I think got discussed on this board? Or was it one of the subjects that put paid to the last forum on THS? If any of that story is only half true then I think a lot more has gone on behind the scenes. Hence the "until we're both dead" embargo as mentioned above?


They way I look at it is the other 3 remaining members of MKII were able to carry on with IG. They all got on with SM, who in turn does not seem to have had any problems with IG.

Draw your own conclusions.

Now whatever you think of SM as a guitar player, I actually think he was one of the bravest people around to take on the 4 of them after everything they had just been through. And this is why I have a lot of time for him. He allowed them to have a normal life.


And to be honest I think it is to their credit that, if there are any really nasty things lurking, it has not all got laundered in public,.

Which is why I can only ever wish them all well and hope they can all find some sort of resolution to the various situations they've been in over the years. Even if that means staying miles apart and not making things any worse.

Life is far too short to do otherwise.


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I remember a 1993 TV interview with Ritchie where he partly blamed himself for Gillan becoming "strange" after he (RB) in the early 70s knocked Gillan down from a barstool in Paris hitting the floor head first. Ever since then Gillan changed, became "different" according to Ritchie. Is there any truth to this story, or is it one of Ritchie's hilarious jokes ? It sure sounded funny when he told it ! emoticon



Yes I remember that too but I'm sure it was a joke. I mean, that might be happened for real but that Gillan became "strange" after that seems highly unlikely.
I think the relationship between Ian and Ritchie is one of the great myths behind this band and one that still makes people talk about it after all this time. I even heard an absurd story about Ritchie being jealous of Ian because he was taller and cuter than him. Everybody has their view of the story.
It's a very interesting topic, it will ever be.

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Sandbagger1 wrote:

I remember a 1993 TV interview with Ritchie where he partly blamed himself for Gillan becoming "strange" after he (RB) in the early 70s knocked Gillan down from a barstool in Paris hitting the floor head first. Ever since then Gillan changed, became "different" according to Ritchie. Is there any truth to this story, or is it one of Ritchie's hilarious jokes ? It sure sounded funny when he told it ! emoticon





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Yes I remember that too but I'm sure it was a joke. I mean, that might be happened for real but that Gillan became "strange" after that seems highly unlikely.
I think the relationship between Ian and Ritchie is one of the great myths behind this band and one that still makes people talk about it after all this time. I even heard an absurd story about Ritchie being jealous of Ian because he was taller and cuter than him. Everybody has their view of the story.
It's a very interesting topic, it will ever be.

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 I read a version of this story in an article in the January 1996 issue of Mojo the Music Magazine in an article by Neil Jeffries, Sandbagger. In the beginning of the article it does clearly state that Blackmore is answering what seems to be a prepared set of questions that Blackmore is answering " Tongue firmly incheek and a devilish twinkle in his eye."
 I agree about the differences between Blackmore + Gillan certainly fueling the Deep Purple engine - for the most part - but by 1992/93 the bloom was definitely off the rose, so to say. It had grown to the proportions of a sad, old, tired soap opera. A part of me was sad to see it (apparently) end in 1993, yet another part says that Blackmore, Gillan, Deep Purple, Candice Night, the fans, Bruce Payne, whomever - probably are - pretty much - better off for it. If Blackmore + Gillan couldn't/can't/won't/ work with one another and put personalties and childish !@#$ aside, then stay away from one another - in a professional sense, I mean.

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I'm a bit Blackmore Bias..I compare myself to him and my own brother like Gillan,I love my brother ..but he doesn't see things the way I do,I put responsibilties to others first,and like Gillan,my own brother seems to worry about himself and a good time more.
  And look at Deep Purple's history between the 2..at least Ritchie was never "Fired" by his own bandmates!
  So I tend to lean more towards Mr Blackmore's decisions and points as to DP's current status.

 

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I am more a fan of Blackmore than I am of Gillan but I would say that Blackmore was the guy that de-stabalised the band right throughout their history.
Now, a Gillan led Deep Purple is near as dammit a happy Deep Purple. If Gillan would have left in 1993 and Blackmore would have stayed, do you honestly believe we would still have a band called Deep Purple to support today?
I think Blackmore would have just found someone else to start a fight with and the instability within the band would have continued.
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quote:

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a) If Gillan would have left in 1993 and Blackmore would have stayed, do you honestly believe we would still have a band called Deep Purple to support today?

b) I think Blackmore would have just found someone else to start a fight with...

c)...the instability within the band would have continued.






a) No.

b) I agree.

c) I agree.



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