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Did Uriah Heep copy itself after Deep Purple.


Blackmore seems to thinks so. This was from some magazine called "Goldmine."

Martin Popoff: Were Uriah Heep coming up at the same time as you, or were they copying you guys?

Ritchie: To be quite honest, they were coming up at the same time and they had a good vocalist going, but I think there was
a bit of copying going on there, to be quite honest, because they were like a year behind us.... It was a bit disconcerning,
when I'd meet them, (Heep vocalist) David Byron would say, "Hey, we're catching you guys up!" Everything revolved around catching you guys up. And there would be periods when I would hear certain little throwaway things I would do on stage.
I used to do bits of Bach, just as a novelty thing, and then suddenly Mick Box would be playing the same Bach piece next
time I saw him. So there was some copying going on there. I'm not having a go at them, but you know when someone is
listening to you and copying you. It's not just coincidence. They were a very good band, and I love stuff like "Lady in Black"
and "Gypsy" ---some of my favorite songs.
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I just downloaded some old Heep and as much as I do like a few of their songs I still don't think they come even close to DP musically.They might have copied a bit but still not very close in my opinion.
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I love Heep.They are my second favorite after DP.Songs like Salisbury,July Morning,Look at Yourself,Sympathy,Bird of Pray are just classic.
In an interview Mick Box says that they used to rehears next to DP and because the two bands were playing loud rock'n'roll, the place was one of the loudest studios around.
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Q: Did Uriah Heep copy itself after Deep Purple?

A: Maybe/possibly. And so what? Deep Purple itself admits to copying from numerous influences themselves - not least of which is - to the eternal dismay of lots of Purple fans, methinks emoticon - Led Zeppelin.

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I was just flicking thru the channels on TV just prior to going to bed last Friday night/Saturday morning and lo and behold an OLD 70's rock show started (on German TV). I sat fascinated for the remainder (which was another good excuse to stay up and drink another beer...). Anyway, there were at least 10 bands which appeared in the show - each band with a Hammond organ and they all sounded alike (pyschodelic trippy tunes and oh, those hippy clothes - great stuff!). There must have been dozens of bands like that all over Europe and it gets very hard to see who copied who. Heep were on too, and although they had better songs, they too sounded like all the others. DP finally arrived towards the end and played Black Night - which just was so modern and leading edge in comparison. I think the burning point was at that time ALL of those guitarists were timidly standing in awe of Hendrix, and Blackers was not (he had no other job or rather no other choice) - Blackers was vibrantly taking that that he needed from Hendrix and was moving on, enjoying success as a new breaking-ground guitarist. DP were therefore breaking the mold of all those trippy Hammond groups. Yes, I believe Heep tried to follow DP but failed - lack of personalities/talent.
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Purple copied Vanilla Fudge and got a away with it. That's accordind to MIB himself.
Heeps Look at yourself is right up there with Fireball or WDWTWA.
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 It's long been admitted by most of the members - past + present - of Deep Purple that they themselves were 'copying' from bands they admired or were influenced by. No biggee or surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Also no diminishing of either Deep Purple's or Uriah Heeps abilities/accomplishments because they did, either - in my non-humble opinion, of course of course. emoticon
 I just thought I'd add this 'cut 'n paste' quote from a post that Michael aka (MrSnip) put on a different thread/topic a few days ago, as it somehow seemed pertinent to me:

"And remember, Deep Purple were never a band of heart, but simply a produced band by management (Spice Girls and Boyzone springs to mind)"

 I may not agree 100% in the particulars of the statement ("never a band of 'heart'" - I think they certainly became a band of 'heart', even if the original concept wasn't 'from the heart' and was strictly a money-making proposition ), but I have to agree in general and/or principle, asd it's been admitted as such by the very people who were involved in the creation of Deep Purple - primarily Jon Lord, Tony Edwards + John Coletta.

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To create is to steale something and recreate it in your own way. That's the nature of music. "Stealing from" is just another phrase for "getting inspiration from". Even Blackmore do not have too big an ego to be wrong about that.

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Didn't Blackmore once say "why borrow music when you can just flat our steal it"?

I think he was answering the question specific to the Lazy riff??

At the very least, Blackmore is simply blunt (and witty), and pushes credit away from himself. Borrowed or stolen, he did wonders with the music.
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quote:

Carramba wrote:

a) Didn't Blackmore once say "why borrow music when you can just flat our steal it"?

b) At the very least, Blackmore is simply blunt (and witty), and pushes credit away from himself.

c) Borrowed or stolen, he did wonders with the music.




a) Maybe it's not the exact quote you were referring to Richard, but I always felt this one pretty much said it all:

GP-What advice would you give to a person who wanted to become a good rock guitarist?

RB-I'd have a tendency to say "Get a good guitar, and get a good tutor book." Really the only way you can get good - unless you're a genius - is to copy. You'll never come up with your own gear, until you've copied.
That's the best thing. Just steal. - Ritchie Blackmore, to Martin Webb, from the 1973 Guitar Player interview (as reprinted on The Highway Star) Unauthorized copying, while sometimes necessary, is never as good as the real thing (with apologies to Ani)
(c) 2003, The Highway Star*

b) Very good description of Blackmore as an 'interviewee', Richard! emoticon

c) 100% agreement from this corner of the stable, Richard! emoticon


*I know guys, I know... emoticon/ emoticon ...hopefully, Rasmus, Svante + the rest of staff at The Highway Star will find it in themselves to somehow forgive me. emoticon

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