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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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LITB and others are defending RB no matter what even if "Rainbow" now puts out covers of BN material and features a drum machine.
If it wasn't for real one would have thought it was all a bad dream.
im not defending RB at all im simply refuting the ptr allegation that the only acceptable thing on the track is RRs vocal.The guitar work is good the overall sound of the track is homemade and cheap though .as i said i would rather have a new composition than a retread of an old song.Just seems to me that ptr cant help but stick the knife in Blackers at every opportunity and yet the same man refuses to see Gillans limitations.does he have an Agenda?yep for sure
Sorry, but can you tell me how IG is connected to RB´s laziness and offering such a cheap stuff? It seems that IG is somewhat behind anything wrong RB does. It´s probably Gillan who suggested Ritchie to do homemade amateur recordings with computer drummer and awful sound.
Ian Gillan has nothing to do with RBs current output of course,im simply pointing out that you have and have always had an agenda against RB as you are a member of the Gillan can do no wrong club.You continually undermine Blackmore at every opportunity whilst blindly backing Gillan at every turn and refuse to accept that Gillans voice left him decades ago.Its simple double standards.I fully accept that Blackers is a pale shadow of former glories which is why i have refused to go and see this current Rainbow project as it quite simply isn't Rainbow to me and i would rather remember Blackers as he was.
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17/5/2019, 18:14
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Witchy Nightmare
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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It seems that IG is somewhat behind anything wrong RB does.
Wasn't it just the other way round, with Blackmore being behind everything wrong Gillan did? If Gillan sang crap, it was because Blackers didn't support him, if Gillan drank too much, it was because Blackmore didn't like his singing, and if Gillan gained weight, it was because Blackmore had thrown spaghetti into his face. That's how I remember the story.
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17/5/2019, 18:15
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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Yes, I don't understand what Gillan has to do with this home made recording either...
Gillan obviously has nothing whatsoever to do with RBs latest recording, see my reply to ptr for an explanation, but to be honest i think you know where i was coming from
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17/5/2019, 18:16
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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It seems that IG is somewhat behind anything wrong RB does.
Wasn't it just the other way round, with Blackmore being behind everything wrong Gillan did? If Gillan sang crap, it was because Blackers didn't support him, if Gillan drank too much, it was because Blackmore didn't like his singing, and if Gillan gained weight, it was because Blackmore had thrown spaghetti into his face. That's how I remember the story.
absolutely right
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17/5/2019, 18:19
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I actually prefer the original.
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17/5/2019, 18:24
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I actually prefer the original.
I do the same. Because it's more honest, without computer work.
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17/5/2019, 18:26
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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It seems that IG is somewhat behind anything wrong RB does.
Wasn't it just the other way round, with Blackmore being behind everything wrong Gillan did? If Gillan sang crap, it was because Blackers didn't support him, if Gillan drank too much, it was because Blackmore didn't like his singing, and if Gillan gained weight, it was because Blackmore had thrown spaghetti into his face. That's how I remember the story.
There is one little thing.... You probably dont know that physical health overall and voice is affected by stress and pressure. IG was bandmate with RB who was very difficult kind of character (and I´m wording it in the most diplomatic way). Then I say, that bad blood among band and overall situation of the band could have impact on IG at that time. I also said, that singer should have a veto about songs done in set.
IG is LONG GONE from Ritchie´s life - they are no bandmates anymore, they are just guys who were together in one band long decades ago. So the situation is completely different. When IG has "off-night" these days, it would be hillarious to "connect" that any way with RB. When IG had off-night in "bad DP years" - it could have been caused by stress, arguments and overall atmosphere or being drunk or partying, whatever, or of course health issues as these days. I have no idea - I´m not IG´s personal physician and I doubt you are to know, what is and what was the cause for it.
What I do know is, that what Rainbow released with these recordings is amateurish, home-made and cheap. It doesnt deserve to have "Rainbow" name in title.
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17/5/2019, 18:33
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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It seems that IG is somewhat behind anything wrong RB does.
Wasn't it just the other way round, with Blackmore being behind everything wrong Gillan did? If Gillan sang crap, it was because Blackers didn't support him, if Gillan drank too much, it was because Blackmore didn't like his singing, and if Gillan gained weight, it was because Blackmore had thrown spaghetti into his face. That's how I remember the story.
There is one little thing.... You probably dont know that physical health overall and voice is affected by stress and pressure. IG was bandmate with RB who was very difficult kind of character (and I´m wording it in the most diplomatic way). Then I say, that bad blood among band and overall situation of the band could have impact on IG at that time. I also said, that singer should have a veto about songs done in set.
IG is LONG GONE from Ritchie´s life - they are no bandmates anymore, they are just guys who were together in one band long decades ago. So the situation is completely different. When IG has "off-night" these days, it would be hillarious to "connect" that any way with RB. When IG had off-night in "bad DP years" - it could have been caused by stress, arguments and overall atmosphere or being drunk or partying, whatever, or of course health issues as these days. I have no idea - I´m not IG´s personal physician and I doubt you are to know, what is and what was the cause for it.
What I do know is, that what Rainbow released with these recordings is amateurish, home-made and cheap. It doesnt deserve to have "Rainbow" name in title.
So how do you explain the FACT that Gillan sang like !@#$ from the start of the reunion when by all accounts the band members were getting along fine?It wasnt really until the recording sessions for THOBL that the old tensions returned.As i said its all the one way with you.ie its all Blackers fault and Gillan is still a great singer (which he really hasn't been apart from a few random occasions post 70s)you mention that you dont know the causes for Gillans off nights these days ?im intrigued to know when he last had an ON night?Last one i recall was during the early Gillan(the band) years .
I will agree that the current version of Rainbow and the recent releases dont merit the name.
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17/5/2019, 18:55
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
quote: lightintheblack0 wrote:
quote: ptr wrote:
quote: Witchy Nightmare wrote:
quote: ptr wrote:
It seems that IG is somewhat behind anything wrong RB does.
Wasn't it just the other way round, with Blackmore being behind everything wrong Gillan did? If Gillan sang crap, it was because Blackers didn't support him, if Gillan drank too much, it was because Blackmore didn't like his singing, and if Gillan gained weight, it was because Blackmore had thrown spaghetti into his face. That's how I remember the story.
There is one little thing.... You probably dont know that physical health overall and voice is affected by stress and pressure. IG was bandmate with RB who was very difficult kind of character (and I´m wording it in the most diplomatic way). Then I say, that bad blood among band and overall situation of the band could have impact on IG at that time. I also said, that singer should have a veto about songs done in set.
IG is LONG GONE from Ritchie´s life - they are no bandmates anymore, they are just guys who were together in one band long decades ago. So the situation is completely different. When IG has "off-night" these days, it would be hillarious to "connect" that any way with RB. When IG had off-night in "bad DP years" - it could have been caused by stress, arguments and overall atmosphere or being drunk or partying, whatever, or of course health issues as these days. I have no idea - I´m not IG´s personal physician and I doubt you are to know, what is and what was the cause for it.
What I do know is, that what Rainbow released with these recordings is amateurish, home-made and cheap. It doesnt deserve to have "Rainbow" name in title.
So how do you explain the FACT that Gillan sang like !@#$ from the start of the reunion when by all accounts the band members were getting along fine?It wasnt really until the recording sessions for THOBL that the old tensions returned.As i said its all the one way with you.ie its all Blackers fault and Gillan is still a great singer (which he really hasn't been apart from a few random occasions post 70s)you mention that you dont know the causes for Gillans off nights these days ?im intrigued to know when he last had an ON night?Last one i recall was during the early Gillan(the band) years .
I will agree that the current version of Rainbow and the recent releases dont merit the name.
Did you read this part, which is actually "general" please? "it COULD have been caused by stress, arguments and overall atmosphere or being drunk or partying, whatever, or of course health issues as these days. I have no idea - I´m not IG´s personal physician and I doubt you are to know."
BTW we are OT - it´s Ritchie & Rainbow topic…
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17/5/2019, 19:13
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Re: New Rainbow song The Storm now on Youtube
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There is one little thing.... You probably dont know that physical health overall and voice is affected by stress and pressure. IG was bandmate with RB who was very difficult kind of character (and I´m wording it in the most diplomatic way). Then I say, that bad blood among band and overall situation of the band could have impact on IG at that time. I also said, that singer should have a veto about songs done in set.
IG is LONG GONE from Ritchie´s life - they are no bandmates anymore, they are just guys who were together in one band long decades ago. So the situation is completely different. When IG has "off-night" these days, it would be hillarious to "connect" that any way with RB. When IG had off-night in "bad DP years" - it could have been caused by stress, arguments and overall atmosphere or being drunk or partying, whatever, or of course health issues as these days. I have no idea - I´m not IG´s personal physician and I doubt you are to know, what is and what was the cause for it.
My comment wasn't meant entirely seriously - although I find it somewhat strange that some of the Gillan worshippers try to explain every weakness of their hero with influences from someone else, most of all The Incarnation Of The Evil of course. Gillan forgot his lyrics even in 1985 when there was no tension between him and Mr. Blackmore (at least the videos indicate that there cannot have been too much tension at that time).
quote: What I do know is, that what Rainbow released with these recordings is amateurish, home-made and cheap. It doesnt deserve to have "Rainbow" name in title.
Here I agree. And it's a pity especially as Ronnie and Ritchie do a good job on these recordings.
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