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Gillan (Japanese import), Mr. Universe and Glory Road were very good, nothing after these was as coherent.
Live they were always a bit of a shambles, only Towns was a top player live and the sound at their live shows was always murky and a mess. However on a good night they were electric.



I always thought that they played pretty good, but your point is valid. IG was sometimes the factor. If you listen to the Oxford Poly concert, he was somewhat strained, but just a short time later, he was quite fine at the Gillingham show. Towards the end of 1982, he was getting rough. I always liked Underwood and McCoy. I was never thrilled with Torme or Gers, although I thought that they played well.

Either way, if you look up that Japanese concert where he was being interviewed by Japanese television and performing with his new band after disbanding IGB, I think that he was at his best then.



I agree that IG was easily at his best in the IGB and the immediate aftermath. I saw Gillan a few times and his voice was really raspy every time. The last time (1982 in Corby Civic Hall!!) his voice was totally shot, completely gone.



That was his demise, really. He was thin at Oxford Poly, but real good at Gillingham in January, 1982, I believe. The stuff that I've heard from later in 1982 wasn't so good. Going to Sabbath after disbanding Gillan, was basically the end. He pulled off a few good shows, but only OK at best and not good the rest of the time. Oy! emoticon



The first time I saw Gillan was in 1980, and I was amazed at how bad his voice was compared to IGB live at the Budokan import album.
Saw them a few times over the next two years, and met IG a couple of times after as got in on my friends backstage passes with him.
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He still had the nice Gillan tone, but his range was diminished a fair amount. I didn't hear him getting harsh until sometime in 1981. Still, when he was on, he could still be excellent. He started doing more of that screamy vocal style and it really hurt his voice. I wish that he would have calmed it down and used it sparingly, but that was what he liked, for better or worse.
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He still had the nice Gillan tone, but his range was diminished a fair amount. I didn't hear him getting harsh until sometime in 1981. Still, when he was on, he could still be excellent. He started doing more of that screamy vocal style and it really hurt his voice. I wish that he would have calmed it down and used it sparingly, but that was what he liked, for better or worse.



He screamed his way through Gillan, I didn't really like his voice then. I liked it far more on Born Again but as others have noted, that really was the end after that.
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Seems that the "is his voice in good shape tonight?" problem was already there in those days. Didn't know that.
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Well, Gillan certainly had his ups and downs but I wouldn't say he lost it after Born Again. How about Toolbox? I say it's the best Gillan singing ever. At 45 he was at his best.
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Well, Gillan certainly had his ups and downs but I wouldn't say he lost it after Born Again. How about Toolbox? I say it's the best Gillan singing ever. At 45 he was at his best.



The tour with BS ravaged his throat, and of course the endless partying.
He sounds fine on most studio albums recorded since, but live he often struggled.
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I've been listening to the Gillan cd's during my work out and have to say they all stand up to anything Rainbow and Whitesnake put out yet they never caught on on here in the States. For the folks that live outside the States, were they big in your country? Thanks Much!




I think it's fair to say that during the Mr Universe to Future Shock period Gillan was the best DP offshoot. IG was losing the voice but retained the effortless bonhomie. The material for the most part was strong. Live they were the most accessible. Visually they were awesome, Torme's (RIP) rnr gypsy persona next to McCoy's hulking pony tail & shades all-in wrestler next to Towne's dour undertaker. Album & singles sales in UK were respectable, I guess they just weren't as outlooking as the others (probabally constrained by record label & resources).
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Hardly surprising the voice issues with the workload. Its unclear why they had to tour so intensively.
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Hardly surprising the voice issues with the workload. Its unclear why they had to tour so intensively.


It certainly wasn't against Gillan's wish.
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Hardly surprising the voice issues with the workload. Its unclear why they had to tour so intensively.



If you read Richard Bransons autobiography he says that despite FS going top 10 in the UK it only sold 60k copies. Gillan had to tour extensively to stay afloat i suspect

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