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Stratman70, shame about your Sovereign but I would really appreciate a video with it. It's impossible to find proper sound demos of that thing anywhere online so I'm very curious to hear what a Sovereign sounds like.

I'm surprised you didn't know about the bass thing. There are pictures floating around of his Marshall Major and Engl EQ settings and the bass is almost always completely rolled off!

BSM RPA, that supposedly has a tape deck preamp built in already, so who knows what that does? I've never really heard a good sounding demo using this pedal so I have no idea what to expect. People say Ritchie used some kind of treble booster that was built into his Majors in conjunction with the tape deck, so I wanted to put that theory to the test.

As for the echo, I'm worried about it changing the signal impedance which might change how the guitar, tape deck and amp interact with each other. Effects pedals like that often buffer the guitar signal which is alright if you're using lots of effects but will totally change the way treble boosters and fuzz faces sound. I was just looking for ways to eliminate anything that could have an influence on the signal and as such make your demos less representative or authentic, so to speak.


Blackmaple, yeah. The MTC was indeed made by Dawk though similar circuits have been around at the time already. While it does definitely change the way your guitar sounds, it is not the be all end all secret weapon to Ritchie's sound, just another puzzle piece. Oh and it's more than just a tone pot mod. It also changes the way the volume pot behaves, more high end when you roll it back but doesn't sound like a treble bleed.





the zero bass factor is [sign in to see URL] only discovered this relatively recently, it gives an amazingly pure sound on the neck pick up in [sign in to see URL] the end of Ariel.

Yngwie I know also uses zero bass and possibly Gilmour, eg The Another brick in the wall fade solo, that pure neck tone once again.
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Please, everyone, don't forget that he's got his tone pot mod as well.. (a Dawk invention?).

This smooths his sound out a lot too



yes, he uses 300k [sign in to see URL] kind of compromise between 250/500 I understand and, yes, a dawk mod!



Really, was that confirmed by Dawk back in the day? It's been a while so I can't really remember. This might make sense with the Schecter pickups but with the Lace Sensors that might sound a bit thin, IMO.

Yeah, the zero bass can do really interesting things to the sound with the right amplifier. Not so sure about Gilmour using zero bass, a bit hard to tell with his crazy setup.
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I used to have a Candy Apple Red '57 Reissue Strat that I put this pg in;
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I got offered more for the guitar with the pg in it than I paid for both total so I let it go. That said, it was an easy choice because I'm not a fan of EMGs and prefer his tone with his old black strat with the passive pickups.
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I used to have a Candy Apple Red '57 Reissue Strat that I put this pg in;
pg review

I got offered more for the guitar with the pg in it than I paid for both total so I let it go. That said, it was an easy choice because I'm not a fan of EMGs and prefer his tone with his old black strat with the passive pickups.




interesting, I have a red strat And initially wanted EMGs I guess to emulate the Gilmour Pulse era sound, the guitar shop tech questioned me on this and dissuaded me, saying unless certain one liked emgs, best to avoid committing to purchase, he suggested Bare knuckle HoLY Divers, which have been pretty good. anyhow, I’d be interested to hear what you don't like about EMGs?
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We're getting rather off topic, but the one time I got to try out EMG's was on a friend's Les Paul and I expected the worst but instead I was pretty amazed by how they sounded. Of all things, I particularly liked the clean tones I could get with them.
They're definitely not for purists though and you really have to try them first before committing. I imagine single coil style EMG's sound a bit different than the humbuckers that I tried, I'm hoping I'll get a chance to try those out in the future too.
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I used to have a Candy Apple Red '57 Reissue Strat that I put this pg in;
pg review

I got offered more for the guitar with the pg in it than I paid for both total so I let it go. That said, it was an easy choice because I'm not a fan of EMGs and prefer his tone with his old black strat with the passive pickups.




interesting, I have a red strat And initially wanted EMGs I guess to emulate the Gilmour Pulse era sound, the guitar shop tech questioned me on this and dissuaded me, saying unless certain one liked emgs, best to avoid committing to purchase, he suggested Bare knuckle HoLY Divers, which have been pretty good. anyhow, I’d be interested to hear what you don't like about EMGs?



The pro:

They're dead silent, like you could hear a pin drop silent so in that aspect I can see why Gilmour went to those in the 80s.

The con (and its a big 'un):

Yes, when running a clean tone they're crystal clear but they're just a bit too sterile to my ears. I think they lack soul, character. Don't get me wrong, I love Gilmour's late 80's/early 90's tone but when you take a look at his rig from that period, its easy to see why it works. That said if I had to choose from that or his tone on the last two tours, I'll take the last two tours in an instant. He went back to the passive pickups and scaled his rig back considerably by comparison.
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