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I will give you that, its pretty hard to top H&H. Its just one of those magical records where it all came together perfectly, much like Rising did.
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I'm frankly surprised by the hate for Dehumanizer! It's easily a top 3 Sabbath album in my book, the songwriting, performances and production are all top notch. Dio and Iommi especially are firing on all cylinders like they had something to prove. I'm still amazed by it every time I listen to it. Absolutely essential Dio/Sabbath, each track is a classic. Also the lyrics were Dio at his most inspired, I could go on and on. I would place it above Mob Rules, and just under H&H.

I have to agree though with The Devil You Know though, that one sounds plodding and dull. Was quite disappointed with it when it came out, and hoped it would grow on me but it never did.



Me too, I was quite surprised. I listen to it now and it still holds up production-wise as [sign in to see URL] like it could have been recorded this year!




To me it was a disappointment at the time.I was delighted to hear RJD was working with Sabbath again, but maybe i expected too much after the wonderful H&H and MR ?
For me Dehumanizer had only a few great tracks ,namely
Computer God,After All,and I ,the rest were a bit generic ie a mix of ok and filler IMHO
Yes RJD sang superbly, and Tony played great ,but for me a lot of the material just wasn't up there with their earlier collaborations.



After some of the albums that Black Sabbath had released in the 80's and early 90's, when Dehumanizer was released it sounded heroic compared to Seventh Star, Eternal Idol etc.
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I've not heard Ronnie write any decent material since LIL tbh, with the exception of perhaps some of the Killing the dragon tracks, and maybe Bible black.

I know I'm in a minority but I though 7th Star was an amazing LP, granted not a Sabbath LP as such, should have been Tony solo, nonetheless, fantastic songs, guitar playing and of course vocals!
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I'm frankly surprised by the hate for Dehumanizer! It's easily a top 3 Sabbath album in my book, the songwriting, performances and production are all top notch. Dio and Iommi especially are firing on all cylinders like they had something to prove. I'm still amazed by it every time I listen to it. Absolutely essential Dio/Sabbath, each track is a classic. Also the lyrics were Dio at his most inspired, I could go on and on. I would place it above Mob Rules, and just under H&H.

I have to agree though with The Devil You Know though, that one sounds plodding and dull. Was quite disappointed with it when it came out, and hoped it would grow on me but it never did.



Me too, I was quite surprised. I listen to it now and it still holds up production-wise as [sign in to see URL] like it could have been recorded this year!




To me it was a disappointment at the time.I was delighted to hear RJD was working with Sabbath again, but maybe i expected too much after the wonderful H&H and MR ?
For me Dehumanizer had only a few great tracks ,namely
Computer God,After All,and I ,the rest were a bit generic ie a mix of ok and filler IMHO
Yes RJD sang superbly, and Tony played great ,but for me a lot of the material just wasn't up there with their earlier collaborations.



After some of the albums that Black Sabbath had released in the 80's and early 90's, when Dehumanizer was released it sounded heroic compared to Seventh Star, Eternal Idol etc.



Thats true but it pales in comparison to both H&H and MR though, which is obviously what it has to be compared to.

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I will give you that, its pretty hard to top H&H. Its just one of those magical records where it all came together perfectly, much like Rising did.



totally agree RBB

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I'm frankly surprised by the hate for Dehumanizer! It's easily a top 3 Sabbath album in my book, the songwriting, performances and production are all top notch. Dio and Iommi especially are firing on all cylinders like they had something to prove. I'm still amazed by it every time I listen to it. Absolutely essential Dio/Sabbath, each track is a classic. Also the lyrics were Dio at his most inspired, I could go on and on. I would place it above Mob Rules, and just under H&H.

I have to agree though with The Devil You Know though, that one sounds plodding and dull. Was quite disappointed with it when it came out, and hoped it would grow on me but it never did.



Me too, I was quite surprised. I listen to it now and it still holds up production-wise as [sign in to see URL] like it could have been recorded this year!




To me it was a disappointment at the time.I was delighted to hear RJD was working with Sabbath again, but maybe i expected too much after the wonderful H&H and MR ?
For me Dehumanizer had only a few great tracks ,namely
Computer God,After All,and I ,the rest were a bit generic ie a mix of ok and filler IMHO
Yes RJD sang superbly, and Tony played great ,but for me a lot of the material just wasn't up there with their earlier collaborations.



After some of the albums that Black Sabbath had released in the 80's and early 90's, when Dehumanizer was released it sounded heroic compared to Seventh Star, Eternal Idol etc.



Thats true but it pales in comparison to both H&H and MR though, which is obviously what it has to be compared to.




I'll take Dehumanizer over MR any time of the day though! Each track of Dehumanizer is fantastic and memorable, with MR there are lesser and fillery tracks imho.

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good to hear, I want to like Dehumaniser but haven't heard anything decent from it yet. I'd take 7th star [sign in to see URL] Mob Rules for sure.

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I love both H&H and MR, but Dehumanizer is not far below either in my opinion.
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I'll take Dehumanizer over MR any time of the day though! Each track of Dehumanizer is fantastic and memorable, with MR there are lesser and fillery tracks imho.




were all different mate, for me Dehumanizer is miles below both H&H and MR, though MR is not as good as H&H.

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I've always liked Seventh Star. Too bad there was so much record company pressure to call it Black Sabbath. I'll always look at it as Tony's first solo album and if you go into it with that thought, its a great record. It stands up with Fused and The DEP Sessions. Glenn and Tony make a great team and have been fortunate enough to tell them both that in conversation.
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