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Ok I can’t remember all these Acronyms all the time- what song is CTR?!
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Catch the Rainbow.
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For everyone who thinks Ritchie's thingers can't do proper runs on the guitar anymore should check out this video at 4:43 minutes:



I think he still can do it, but he doesn't want to do it anymore all the time like in the old days. Today it's not about speed anymore for him, more about a good melody.

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Stefan72 - I understand your point and I agree it's more about melody these days.
Two things, though:

1. some songs require fast playing, it's just the nature of those songs
2. my criticism is not so much about the different style of [sign in to see URL] in mind the exceptions as per point 1, that's fine; he has adjusted, we need to do the same if we want to listen - and there is plenty of good stuff in what he plays nowadays. The issue is more about the sloppiness of certain parts that do not require high speed; it's about being sometimes behind the beat, missing some bits and pieces. I know he can do it technically, I think he needs to focus (on stage) and rehearse (off stage) more. In this respect both Loreley two years ago and Moscow this time pay the price of being the first shows, where the machine is not yet running full-speed and he may be distracted by the overall show and what's happening instead of just concentrating on his parts. The exception was perhaps London last year.
And rehearsing has really a lot to do with tedious, repetitive work - I play guitar myself, and I know that if I don't rehearse on a regular basis a song, in a matter of a few weeks I will not be able to perform it start-to-finish without messing up or forgetting something. If he only plays a few days of rehearsals and does not spend every day a few minutes on each song, it's not difficult that he may forget something, or be less fluid. And being under the spotlight, everything is magnified.
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Stefan72 - I understand your point and I agree it's more about melody these days.
Two things, though:

1. some songs require fast playing, it's just the nature of those songs
2. my criticism is not so much about the different style of [sign in to see URL] in mind the exceptions as per point 1, that's fine; he has adjusted, we need to do the same if we want to listen - and there is plenty of good stuff in what he plays nowadays. The issue is more about the sloppiness of certain parts that do not require high speed; it's about being sometimes behind the beat, missing some bits and pieces. I know he can do it technically, I think he needs to focus (on stage) and rehearse (off stage) more. In this respect both Loreley two years ago and Moscow this time pay the price of being the first shows, where the machine is not yet running full-speed and he may be distracted by the overall show and what's happening instead of just concentrating on his parts. The exception was perhaps London last year.
And rehearsing has really a lot to do with tedious, repetitive work - I play guitar myself, and I know that if I don't rehearse on a regular basis a song, in a matter of a few weeks I will not be able to perform it start-to-finish without messing up or forgetting something. If he only plays a few days of rehearsals and does not spend every day a few minutes on each song, it's not difficult that he may forget something, or be less fluid. And being under the spotlight, everything is magnified.



The problem is that RB plays the strat and also rock music in general too seldom to be really prepared for all this. If you play acoustic music for 20 years and then just do 3-4 gigs a year with rock music, you can't really get into the rock mode again. It's not possible. And I think that's one of the things that makes it sound so differently, than fans are used to from the old days.
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I fully agree on this - we don't know how often he picks up the Strat at home, but the whole experience is something he missed for twenty years.
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Let me expand quickly on one aspects that gets a bit overlooked: I think he is distracted heavily by the show itself: leading the band, caring that it all falls into place, that everything works, etc. This was always the case with Rainbow to a certain extent, but for example in DP he had an easier job, because the others in the band (well, maybe with one exception) he could trust and rely on, and he would mostly do his parts and add some [sign in to see URL] he knew that if someone messed things up (including himself), Jon, Little Ian and/or Roger would keep it all together. With this band, I do not think he has yet the level of confidence in the others (except for Jens) to let go of his controlling nature and just do his parts. And this does not help him to bring out the best of his playing.
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Yes - and to solve that problem, they would have to do a lot more shows and grow musically as a band. Because the musicians he's playing with a great, but if you just play 3-4 times a year together, the chemistry builds up slowly.

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Actually think mistreated is excellent at Moscow

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