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They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.

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Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.

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Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote.

I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.

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Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big.

The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so.

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I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading

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They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.

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Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.

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Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote.

I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.

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Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big.

The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so.

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I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading

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Oy! The way people are talking, it was like they were subsisting on bread and water. I don't know about the UK in the early-mid-eighties, but in the US 25 to 30K a year would get you a decent house, a nice car and enough cash to spend and put some away. I would think that they would have made that much fairly easily.

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Re Gillan Magic tour, I wasn’t aware Wembley only half ish full. Seemed a big venue for them, having said that I saw them @ Glasgow Apollo on the same tour, which was definitely full. Both those gigs on CD now of course!

Gillan albums always seemed to be top 10, at least in UK. So, with well attended shows, perhaps it was the management deal? Same problem DC had with WS until he bought himself out. funny thing is, Gillan has been with that manager ever since afaik?

If IG was hard up as most seem to accept in the early 80s, he can’t really be blamed for the others not getting paid, as presumably he wasn’t either (for whatever reason) and more or less living off DP royalties?

Problem was on that 1982 tour they played 40 odd dates, and the same on previous outings, which certainly would have taken a toll on his voice. More so I’d say than the Sabbath stint.

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