1984 reunion.... https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t19262 Runboard| 1984 reunion.... en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:25:59 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:25:59 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514205,from=rss#post514205https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514205,from=rss#post514205quote:Desperateheart wrote: Re Gillan Magic tour, I wasn’t aware Wembley only half ish full. Seemed a big venue for them, having said that I saw them @ Glasgow Apollo on the same tour, which was definitely full. Both those gigs on CD now of course! Gillan albums always seemed to be top 10, at least in UK. So, with well attended shows, perhaps it was the management deal? Same problem DC had with WS until he bought himself out. funny thing is, Gillan has been with that manager ever since afaik? If IG was hard up as most seem to accept in the early 80s, he can’t really be blamed for the others not getting paid, as presumably he wasn’t either (for whatever reason) and more or less living off DP royalties? Problem was on that 1982 tour they played 40 odd dates, and the same on previous outings, which certainly would have taken a toll on his voice. More so I’d say than the Sabbath stint. By this time of the Magic tour his voice was really knackered. For the show at Corby Civic Centre he just rasped and croaked through the show. The band was pretty much on its last legs by this point, which is fine as very few bands have a long shelf life. Was amazed when I heard about the BS gig. I would imagine you are correct re money. Nobody in Gillan nor WS was likely to become rich playing the shows they did without becoming big in the US. It is very clear the rest of Gillan hold IG responsible for not getting their share of the money, I doubt if we will ever know the whole truth will we?nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:06:27 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514204,from=rss#post514204https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514204,from=rss#post514204Re Gillan Magic tour, I wasn’t aware Wembley only half ish full. Seemed a big venue for them, having said that I saw them @ Glasgow Apollo on the same tour, which was definitely full. Both those gigs on CD now of course! Gillan albums always seemed to be top 10, at least in UK. So, with well attended shows, perhaps it was the management deal? Same problem DC had with WS until he bought himself out. funny thing is, Gillan has been with that manager ever since afaik? If IG was hard up as most seem to accept in the early 80s, he can’t really be blamed for the others not getting paid, as presumably he wasn’t either (for whatever reason) and more or less living off DP royalties? Problem was on that 1982 tour they played 40 odd dates, and the same on previous outings, which certainly would have taken a toll on his voice. More so I’d say than the Sabbath stint. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Desperateheart)Mon, 15 Jan 2018 10:39:37 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514203,from=rss#post514203https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514203,from=rss#post514203quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote. I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while. Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big. The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so. I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading Oy! The way people are talking, it was like they were subsisting on bread and water. I don't know about the UK in the early-mid-eighties, but in the US 25 to 30K a year would get you a decent house, a nice car and enough cash to spend and put some away. I would think that they would have made that much fairly easily. Either way, IG should have taken care of the band as a whole instead of himself. In comparison to the majority of people I am sure they were earning decent money. nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:12:36 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514202,from=rss#post514202https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514202,from=rss#post514202quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote. I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while. Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big. The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so. I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading I also saw them at Leicester De Montfort Hall. They played the venues that most bands did in the 80's, some bigger than others. I never thought they were very good live at all.nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:11:32 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514198,from=rss#post514198https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514198,from=rss#post514198quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote. I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while. Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big. The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so. I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading Oy! The way people are talking, it was like they were subsisting on bread and water. I don't know about the UK in the early-mid-eighties, but in the US 25 to 30K a year would get you a decent house, a nice car and enough cash to spend and put some away. I would think that they would have made that much fairly easily. Either way, IG should have taken care of the band as a whole instead of himself. nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 22:57:35 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514197,from=rss#post514197https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514197,from=rss#post514197quote:leelyt wrote: quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: Personally i don't think they should have bothered with the reunion, it was about 5 years too late IMHO .They became a parody of their former glories IMHO especially Blackmore and Gillan. Plenty of people share your opinion, but I love PS & HOBL. I liked the albums too but live they were pretty disappointing IMHO, i actually enjoyed the offshoot bands better ie Gillan,Whitesnake Rainbow Maybe I expected too much? nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:43:15 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514196,from=rss#post514196https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514196,from=rss#post514196quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote. I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while. Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big. The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so. I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:39:55 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514194,from=rss#post514194https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514194,from=rss#post514194quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote. I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while. Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big. The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so.nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 19:27:16 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514193,from=rss#post514193https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514193,from=rss#post514193quote:leelyt wrote: quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote. I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 17:24:16 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514190,from=rss#post514190https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514190,from=rss#post514190quote:leelyt wrote: The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour. I guess the second option would have been a good one. If they had released an album immediately after PS, it could have worked out even worse then HOBL, if they had given themselves more time, it could have worked out better. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Witchy Nightmare)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:59:26 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514189,from=rss#post514189https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514189,from=rss#post514189quote:JSA1 wrote: They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Sun, 14 Jan 2018 12:30:59 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514187,from=rss#post514187https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514187,from=rss#post514187They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement. nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:06:42 +0000 Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514185,from=rss#post514185https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514185,from=rss#post514185Ritchie was poor in 85 & early 87. But late 87/88 & 93 the band was on fire. PS & TBRO are both great albums. HOBL would've been great with a proper producer. I'm glad they reformed. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Perfectly Strange)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:56:49 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514184,from=rss#post514184https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514184,from=rss#post514184quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: Personally i don't think they should have bothered with the reunion, it was about 5 years too late IMHO .They became a parody of their former glories IMHO especially Blackmore and Gillan. Plenty of people share your opinion, but I love PS & HOBL.nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:39:59 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514183,from=rss#post514183https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514183,from=rss#post514183quote:Desperateheart wrote: Suggest Lord and Paige mainly existing on past royalties and investment, DC famously didn't pay them much in WS I would guess this is correct, both would have been earning more from royalties than the set wage from WS.nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:39:02 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514182,from=rss#post514182https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514182,from=rss#post514182quote:JSA1 wrote: quote:leelyt wrote: quote:Desperateheart wrote: We now know, apart from RB, and maybe Roger (royalties from Rainbow having been pouring in since 79) the other members of DP weren’t that well off when they came to reform so despite protestations definitely the prime motivation. Clearly the tour was mega successful, (they'd be on % of merch etc, and gate presumably?) and the LP sold well. if the deal was reported to be circa £10m for 4 LPs, in those days what kind of return do you think the guys would have made? I believe the original deal was for 5 albums, which they completed by making Nobody Perfect as a double album and the compilation Under The Gun which enabled them to move labels. At the time the rumours were flying but the one that received the least arguments was that they received £2M each for the re-union. Of course they made plenty more from the sales of tickets/merchandise/album sales etc. once they were back together. Before the re-union I would imagine that only RB was comfortably well off. RG was making money from Rainbow and as a songwriter would be entitled to credit for sales but JL and IP were hired guns in Whitesnake so were on a flat fee. IG was the one in most need of the re-union. Gillan only sold in the UK and that doesn't keep a band on the road. The Sabbath affair was mostly to try to keep the bailiffs away and of course the rest of Gillan were left penniless when they split. I believe that 'Gillan' was pretty popular in Europe and Japan. The problem was trying to break into the large US market. Either way, IG left his band-mates in the lurch. Joining Sabbath not only killed his voice, but totally surprised and angered the former 'Gillan' members. Rightfully so. He should have paid them some money from the reunion to at least make up for screwing them. I believe that Lord and Paice were probably doing enough to more than get by. Their reputations and talent had them in demand, I'm sure. Big (ish) in Japan, less so in Europe. In the UK and Europe they were a hall/club band, in the US a bar band. I am sure they never made a lot of money, and history suggests that the members of the band made nothing. Both IP & JL were on a flat rate in WS. Again WS made no money until 1987. nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:37:09 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514181,from=rss#post514181https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514181,from=rss#post514181quote:lightintheblack0 wrote: Personally i don't think they should have bothered with the reunion, it was about 5 years too late IMHO .They became a parody of their former glories IMHO especially Blackmore and Gillan. You could be right. I think that they started out inspired, but as Gillan's voice started to fade, Ritchie started to check out. On the HOBL tour, Gillan's voice seemed to have recovered, I think due to surgery of some sort. I think that his voice sounded pretty good on the live stuff for a while, but he started to falter once again, among other things, resulting in his dismissal. You are probably correct on the timing. They should have discussed a reunion when Ritchie sat in on a couple of his shows. Barring that, a rested, no-Sabbath Gillan probably would have made the reunion much better.nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:16:00 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514180,from=rss#post514180https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514180,from=rss#post514180Personally i don't think they should have bothered with the reunion, it was about 5 years too late IMHO .They became a parody of their former glories IMHO especially Blackmore and Gillan.nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:44:29 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514179,from=rss#post514179https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514179,from=rss#post514179quote:Desperateheart wrote: Suggest Lord and Paige mainly existing on past royalties and investment, DC famously didn't pay them much in WS Would it really be DCs decision how much they were paid?Wouldn't it be the managers ie John Colettas role? nondisclosed_email@example.com (lightintheblack0)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:41:27 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514178,from=rss#post514178https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514178,from=rss#post514178Suggest Lord and Paige mainly existing on past royalties and investment, DC famously didn't pay them much in WSnondisclosed_email@example.com (Desperateheart)Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:36:51 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514176,from=rss#post514176https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514176,from=rss#post514176quote:leelyt wrote: quote:Desperateheart wrote: We now know, apart from RB, and maybe Roger (royalties from Rainbow having been pouring in since 79) the other members of DP weren’t that well off when they came to reform so despite protestations definitely the prime motivation. Clearly the tour was mega successful, (they'd be on % of merch etc, and gate presumably?) and the LP sold well. if the deal was reported to be circa £10m for 4 LPs, in those days what kind of return do you think the guys would have made? I believe the original deal was for 5 albums, which they completed by making Nobody Perfect as a double album and the compilation Under The Gun which enabled them to move labels. At the time the rumours were flying but the one that received the least arguments was that they received £2M each for the re-union. Of course they made plenty more from the sales of tickets/merchandise/album sales etc. once they were back together. Before the re-union I would imagine that only RB was comfortably well off. RG was making money from Rainbow and as a songwriter would be entitled to credit for sales but JL and IP were hired guns in Whitesnake so were on a flat fee. IG was the one in most need of the re-union. Gillan only sold in the UK and that doesn't keep a band on the road. The Sabbath affair was mostly to try to keep the bailiffs away and of course the rest of Gillan were left penniless when they split. I believe that 'Gillan' was pretty popular in Europe and Japan. The problem was trying to break into the large US market. Either way, IG left his band-mates in the lurch. Joining Sabbath not only killed his voice, but totally surprised and angered the former 'Gillan' members. Rightfully so. He should have paid them some money from the reunion to at least make up for screwing them. I believe that Lord and Paice were probably doing enough to more than get by. Their reputations and talent had them in demand, I'm sure.nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:15:27 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514175,from=rss#post514175https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514175,from=rss#post514175quote:Desperateheart wrote: We now know, apart from RB, and maybe Roger (royalties from Rainbow having been pouring in since 79) the other members of DP weren’t that well off when they came to reform so despite protestations definitely the prime motivation. Clearly the tour was mega successful, (they'd be on % of merch etc, and gate presumably?) and the LP sold well. if the deal was reported to be circa £10m for 4 LPs, in those days what kind of return do you think the guys would have made? I believe the original deal was for 5 albums, which they completed by making Nobody Perfect as a double album and the compilation Under The Gun which enabled them to move labels. At the time the rumours were flying but the one that received the least arguments was that they received £2M each for the re-union. Of course they made plenty more from the sales of tickets/merchandise/album sales etc. once they were back together. Before the re-union I would imagine that only RB was comfortably well off. RG was making money from Rainbow and as a songwriter would be entitled to credit for sales but JL and IP were hired guns in Whitesnake so were on a flat fee. IG was the one in most need of the re-union. Gillan only sold in the UK and that doesn't keep a band on the road. The Sabbath affair was mostly to try to keep the bailiffs away and of course the rest of Gillan were left penniless when they split. nondisclosed_email@example.com (leelyt)Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:32:43 +0000 Re: 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514142,from=rss#post514142https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514142,from=rss#post514142It was a nice time. Some really, really good shows, some crappy ones and mostly a bunch decent shows in between. I think that Gillan was the one who needed it the most. Ritchie kept pretty busy, as did Roger, Jon and IP, be it Rainbow, Whitesnake or whatever projects that they worked on. Gillan, though, had just finished sticking it to his old band-mates, did the ill-advised Sabbath stint and generally had very little to show for it. Amazing, with the popularity of 'Gillan' and all, especially in the UK and Japan. You can still hear the animosity in McCoy and Towns when they speak about it. Either way, I enjoyed the shows that I saw in Detroit and Toledo, among the best of the MKIIb era.nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:43:57 +0000 1984 reunion....https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514118,from=rss#post514118https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p514118,from=rss#post514118We now know, apart from RB, and maybe Roger (royalties from Rainbow having been pouring in since 79) the other members of DP weren’t that well off when they came to reform so despite protestations definitely the prime motivation. Clearly the tour was mega successful, (they'd be on % of merch etc, and gate presumably?) and the LP sold well. if the deal was reported to be circa £10m for 4 LPs, in those days what kind of return do you think the guys would have made? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Desperateheart)Fri, 05 Jan 2018 12:57:02 +0000