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I dont see a problem with Dio Disciples as tribute band...... it´s purely the hologram crap which is the issue. Dio Disciples playing as tribute band to RJD and his past - 100% fine. Dio Disciples playing with RJD hologram with promotion ala "DIO RETURNS tour - worthless unacceptable money grabbing crap.



so its the marketing/promotion you don't agree with then?
lot of fuss about nothing really, i don't think for a second that anybody actually thinks Dio is going to be miraculously reincarnated emoticon
The Hologram only appears for a short time as far as i know? and there are 2/3 "real"singers with the band.
Yes maybe the promotion could be seen as insensitive by some sensitive souls but there really is NO difference between Dio Disciples and Last In Line



It´s not the band itself which is "main star" of the show according to promotion - it´s hologramed figure of RJD which is main star according to campaign..... it´s completely tasteless, disgusting crap.
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and there are 2/3 "real"singers with the band.


You try to take the focus away from the problem. It's like focussing on Glover's bass playing when talking about the current DP.


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and there are 2/3 "real"singers with the band.


You try to take the focus away from the problem. It's like focussing on Glover's bass playing when talking about the current DP.





???? WTF???im not trying to do anything mate

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I dont see a problem with Dio Disciples as tribute band...... it´s purely the hologram crap which is the issue. Dio Disciples playing as tribute band to RJD and his past - 100% fine. Dio Disciples playing with RJD hologram with promotion ala "DIO RETURNS tour - worthless unacceptable money grabbing crap.



so its the marketing/promotion you don't agree with then?
lot of fuss about nothing really, i don't think for a second that anybody actually thinks Dio is going to be miraculously reincarnated emoticon
The Hologram only appears for a short time as far as i know? and there are 2/3 "real"singers with the band.
Yes maybe the promotion could be seen as insensitive by some sensitive souls but there really is NO difference between Dio Disciples and Last In Line



It´s not the band itself which is "main star" of the show according to promotion - it´s hologramed figure of RJD which is main star according to campaign..... it´s completely tasteless, disgusting crap.




aye Ok whatever emoticon the world has gone PC mad full of people trying their best to take offence at what at the end of the day is meaningless nonsense
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and there are 2/3 "real"singers with the band.


You try to take the focus away from the problem. It's like focussing on Glover's bass playing when talking about the current DP.





???? WTF???im not trying to do anything mate



Obviously you're not aware of what you do. You mention that there 2/3 real singers with the band. Who gives a sh*t about that? It's about Dio, noone else. These singers don't add any credibility to this hologram nonsense.

Moreover, your answer to ptr - "the world has gone PC mad full of people" - shows that you obviously have no interest in trying to understand the viewpoint of someone who thinks in different categories like you do. Reducing something to "PC" always indicates a lack of interest to do a closer look at the subject. I would agree to you that it's all "meaningless nonsense" if it wouldn't impact the music business. But it does (I explained this), therefore it's not a matter of "don't care" for me, but something to reject.

But if it's all PC nonsense for you anyway, I'm ready to stop this debate and agree to disagree.
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and there are 2/3 "real"singers with the band.


You try to take the focus away from the problem. It's like focussing on Glover's bass playing when talking about the current DP.





???? WTF???im not trying to do anything mate



Obviously you're not aware of what you do. You mention that there 2/3 real singers with the band. Who gives a sh*t about that? It's about Dio, noone else. These singers don't add any credibility to this hologram nonsense.

Moreover, your answer to ptr - "the world has gone PC mad full of people" - shows that you obviously have no interest in trying to understand the viewpoint of someone who thinks in different categories like you do. Reducing something to "PC" always indicates a lack of interest to do a closer look at the subject. I would agree to you that it's all "meaningless nonsense" if it wouldn't impact the music business. But it does (I explained this), therefore it's not a matter of "don't care" for me, but something to reject.

But if it's all PC nonsense for you anyway, I'm ready to stop this debate and agree to disagree.



Ok Witchy you seem to have a beef about this so can you give me an example of the harm that something like Dio Disciples actually causes to the music business or indeed any up and coming artists?
For me maybe naively i would assume that anyone who would be interested in going to see such an tribute act clearly already has an interest in the particular artist that the tribute is about?
In which case i don't see any way in which this impacts upon an up and coming artist?.Tribute acts are common place and actually many provide a good night out judging by peoples reactions to them.What would be your suggestion ?No more tribute acts?Let an artists music die with the passing of the artist?
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LITB, sometimes you say the strangest things. No difference between DD and LIL?

The former contains persons that were friends with Dio basically, while LIL has 3/4 of the classic Dio line-up.
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litb, I already tried to explain you that a tribute band consisting of real human beings is something different like some musicians playing to a hologram singing. I also tried to explain the way in which bogus things like that influence the music business. If that hologram thing wouldn't happen, the people perhaps would go see some real band instead, and that would be a win for the live music scenery.

If you don't share my opinion, that's your decision, but I'm not going to explain everything two or three times. People like ptr may be patient enough to do that, I'm not.

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Let an artists music die with the passing of the artist?


No, I don't want to see classical music disappearing from the concert halls. Nor the swing music composed by Glenn Miller for example. (Yes, there's a world outside rock music.) And If some real musicians want to play Dio's music, go ahead.
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LITB, sometimes you say the strangest things. No difference between DD and LIL?

The former contains persons that were friends with Dio basically, while LIL has 3/4 of the classic Dio line-up.




strange i could have sworn Craig Goldy,Simon Wright and Scott Warren spent YEARS playing with Dio in that band what was it called ?oh yes Dio !!!
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litb, I already tried to explain you that a tribute band consisting of real human beings is something different like some musicians playing to a hologram singing. I also tried to explain the way in which bogus things like that influence the music business. If that hologram thing wouldn't happen, the people perhaps would go see some real band instead, and that would be a win for the live music scenery.

If you don't share my opinion, that's your decision, but I'm not going to explain everything two or three times. People like ptr may be patient enough to do that, I'm not.

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Let an artists music die with the passing of the artist?


No, I don't want to see classical music disappearing from the concert halls. Nor the swing music composed by Glenn Miller for example. (Yes, there's a world outside rock music.) And If some real musicians want to play Dio's music, go ahead.



The guys in Dio Disciples are REAL musicians(real enough that 3 of them were in Dios band for years!!) they are playing Dios music LIVE!! the hologram Dio is a small part of the show.Its called entertainment!!! i don't get the bullshittery snobbery about it all.Why not ask the people who are paying to see the shows whether they were entertained or not??
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