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I agree with DC on that one. CitR 's 1987 is way better than the original version for me (and that's the ONLY remake which I love more than the original).

I also agree that if the leader of a band has a "vision" (and that vision proved to be a good one in terms of success), then he should move on and get musicians who embrace that vision as well.

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I agree with DC on that one. CitR 's 1987 is way better than the original version for me (and that's the ONLY remake which I love more than the original).

I also agree that if the leader of a band has a "vision" (and that vision proved to be a good one in terms of success), then he should move on and get musicians who embrace that vision as well.



I tend to agree with this. I don't like the 1987 as a whole but listening to the new collection has given me a ... I guess appreciation about what was going on during that time.

As for CitR ... the 87 version I think fits DC's vision of the song more than the earlier version. I suppose we need to take into context what was going on during the Saints & Sinners album and how generally the whole process was unhappy for everyone involved. I suppose it's easier to make your recollections of a massive financial success (1987) positive to one that wasn't so much (S&S). The mind clouds with positive results but both album creations were really unhappy times for Coverdale. It's amazing how that happens.

As far as the re-issue goes it's been remarkable how much I've seen that album around in 2017. It truly was a cultural phenomenon in the US and I suppose we need to sit back and appreciate that, at least for one album Coverdale was able to hit it out of the park commercially. Regardless of it's artistic merits.

As for it's artistic merits. Of the genre "hair metal" it stands out for it's power (Sykes) and it's voice (Coverdale). It's of it's time but it's also NOT. Slip of the Tongue is very much a hair metal album and where DC lost the plot completely ... but 1987 stands apart. I rarely came back to revisit it but ... I have to say I appreciate it more 30 years later.

It's a tremendous package (live disk and video DVD aside) and I'm glad I made the purchase

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First mention of Kalodner with Looking for Love. Guess the chance that this is a positive reference from DC...

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purpletemple wrote:

I agree with DC on that one. CitR 's 1987 is way better than the original version for me (and that's the ONLY remake which I love more than the original).

I also agree that if the leader of a band has a "vision" (and that vision proved to be a good one in terms of success), then he should move on and get musicians who embrace that vision as well.



I tend to agree with this. I don't like the 1987 as a whole but listening to the new collection has given me a ... I guess appreciation about what was going on during that time.

As for CitR ... the 87 version I think fits DC's vision of the song more than the earlier version. I suppose we need to take into context what was going on during the Saints & Sinners album and how generally the whole process was unhappy for everyone involved. I suppose it's easier to make your recollections of a massive financial success (1987) positive to one that wasn't so much (S&S). The mind clouds with positive results but both album creations were really unhappy times for Coverdale. It's amazing how that happens.

As far as the re-issue goes it's been remarkable how much I've seen that album around in 2017. It truly was a cultural phenomenon in the US and I suppose we need to sit back and appreciate that, at least for one album Coverdale was able to hit it out of the park commercially. Regardless of it's artistic merits.

As for it's artistic merits. Of the genre "hair metal" it stands out for it's power (Sykes) and it's voice (Coverdale). It's of it's time but it's also NOT. Slip of the Tongue is very much a hair metal album and where DC lost the plot completely ... but 1987 stands apart. I rarely came back to revisit it but ... I have to say I appreciate it more 30 years later.

It's a tremendous package (live disk and video DVD aside) and I'm glad I made the purchase



I've never considered 1987 a Hair Metal album. Back then when the album came out, it was just (for me) another WS album. I had been slightly disappointed by SLide it in, but I thought 1987 was just awesome (still do).

I suppose the fact that the 1987 sleeve doesn't have any pictures, and the fact that I rarely watched MTV back then, helped me seeing this album as a regular Hard rock album, and not some MTV/ Hair metal product.

Plus I don't think 1987 sounds like Hair Metal, the sound is fat and muddy and has little to do with Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Mötley Crüe, Poison and other glam/ hair metal bands of the time.

Anyway, because I've always stayed away from the TV and most Rock magazines, I think it allowed me to listen to 1987 and appreciate it for a straight Hard Rock album and not a part of a specific movement.

Not to mention that the musicianship on this album is just one of the best in Hard Rock.



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Interesting comments from DC about Looking for Love. I'll never understand how it didn't make it onto the album, and glad to hear that's DC's decision as well! It was Kalodner's decision apparently. How Kalodner (or anyone for that matter) could decide Children of the Night should be on the album and Looking for Love left off it is beyond me.

Looking for Love is (IMHO) one of DC's greatest vocal performances and had the song been a little shorter, could have been another big hit.

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Have to say a few months on and the evolutions disk has lasted on my playlist far longer than I thought. They actually sound like a band playing (which of course is what they were doing!) & Dunbar, Sykes and Murray sound all the better for it.

And songs like Still of the Night are absolute belters in this format. What with the 'I hear the bells ringing' & 'dance like a chicken', I'm loving it more than the actual album version!
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