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It has been claimed that Graham Bonnet received $12,000in total from his Rainbow experience, Album, Touring etc etc. Frankly that doesn't surprise me at all.

Roger Glover said at one point the Rainbow operation was costs $50,000 a week to keep it running, no doubt because all the roadies, had roadies who had roadies etc etc.

It's amazing how many of these elder rock stars who should be worth Millions simply are not. I'm not 100% on this but I read that Uli Jon Roth was about to file for bankruptcy last year following an issue with taxes and a failed studio venture. So it's not allfast cars and loose women.

BN was going out for £6-15K a night a while back, but the costs will be fairly horrendous with so many players, crew and everything else. Typically they only do 6 dates on an outing, so do the maths.

I'm sure Blackmore is very comfortable with no need to worry about money, but I'm less sure he's super rich at this stage. Hence the Rainbow revival plan.



12000 usd..? It was a lot more 37 years ago, but still sounds ridiculously low?
Even a very low income job pays better than that these days.

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DP should maybe not be compared to Led Zeppelin or ABBA but they are not like, let's say, Wishbone Ash either?

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Sure, and they have made money no doubt. But there is a massive difference with those mega-acts that tap into a much bigger market, which is pop rather than rock. The advantage of rock musicians is that the fan base is more loyal, so they do have a following for thirty years or more, whereas in pop you make much more but for a limited period of time, unless you manage to get to a Madonna-level of status.
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"ABBA's record sales figure is uncertain and various estimates range from over 140 to over 500 million sold records.[2][3] This makes them one of the best-selling music artists of all time.[4]"

Royalties going to two persons, Bjorn and Benny.

100 million has been mentioned for DP, but there is no credible source for that number. Split five ways.

Compare the radio airplay for Abba and DP.

No comparison between the two.
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"ABBA's record sales figure is uncertain and various estimates range from over 140 to over 500 million sold records.[2][3] This makes them one of the best-selling music artists of all time.[4]"

Royalties going to two persons, Bjorn and Benny.

100 million has been mentioned for DP, but there is no credible source for that number. Split five ways.

Compare the radio airplay for Abba and DP.

No comparison between the two.




Don Airey recently mentioned even 150 million for Purple.
In Sweden I hear Purple on the radio as often as LZ or ABBA.
If we count Purple family even more often.

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"ABBA's record sales figure is uncertain and various estimates range from over 140 to over 500 million sold records.[2][3] This makes them one of the best-selling music artists of all time.[4]"

Royalties going to two persons, Bjorn and Benny.

100 million has been mentioned for DP, but there is no credible source for that number. Split five ways.

Compare the radio airplay for Abba and DP.

No comparison between the two.




Don Airey recently mentioned even 150 million for Purple.
In Sweden I hear Purple on the radio as often as LZ or ABBA.
If we count Purple family even more often.



100 million is an estimation, and a low one. Purple has sold way more than that so Airey is probably closer to the truth. Not that it matters very much because they are still dwarfs compared to LZ and ABBA. Sold units is only one factor. Legendary status another. Led Zeppelin is a legendary band that seemed to keep growing when they split. It's like a concept of its own that is much bigger than the band ever was.
The same thing with ABBA. They never went out of fashion. You could travel some very remote locations in the world and the chance that they would recognize their music is much bigger than let's say DP or DP-family.
They had way more hits and appeals to a bigger group of people.
In 2000 they were offered a billion dollars to reform, and they rejected the offer.
That says a lot.

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Also, ABBA's and LZ's fan base is distributed in all major markets, which is not really the case with DP, because DP is "only" big in Japan and parts of Europe, whereas in the US they have a smaller footprint and in other markets it's the same. If you think that until 30 years ago or so, the US accounted for about 40% of album sales worldwide, you can easily see how their status in Sweden, flattering as it may be, is not going to take them to the same level;-)
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BagShotBullets wrote:

It has been claimed that Graham Bonnet received $12,000in total from his Rainbow experience, Album, Touring etc etc. Frankly that doesn't surprise me at all.

Roger Glover said at one point the Rainbow operation was costs $50,000 a week to keep it running, no doubt because all the roadies, had roadies who had roadies etc etc.

It's amazing how many of these elder rock stars who should be worth Millions simply are not. I'm not 100% on this but I read that Uli Jon Roth was about to file for bankruptcy last year following an issue with taxes and a failed studio venture. So it's not allfast cars and loose women.

BN was going out for £6-15K a night a while back, but the costs will be fairly horrendous with so many players, crew and everything else. Typically they only do 6 dates on an outing, so do the maths.

I'm sure Blackmore is very comfortable with no need to worry about money, but I'm less sure he's super rich at this stage. Hence the Rainbow revival plan.



12000 usd..? It was a lot more 37 years ago, but still sounds ridiculously low?
Even a very low income job pays better than that these days.



It might explain why on any supposed "UK Tours" by GB in the last decade, he has played in the sort of sh1tholes that normally only small local bands play and using a backing band, who were getting expenses only. Basically a complete tour on a shoestring. That suggests there simply isn't any money in it for GB and he's not exactly wealthy from years playing music in some quite big bands.

Wasn't GB supposed to have had some serious alcohol related issues ? if so maybe the cash, if there was any, just went on booze.
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Purple get a lot of play on Sirius satellite radio on Ozzy's Boneyard and Classic Vinyl. The one day on Boneyard I heard Highway Star (remix version with studio chatter intro), Knocking On Your Barn Door, Perfect Strangers, SotW, Bad Attitude...then you count the regular radio stations...DP get a lot of play over here still.
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Also, ABBA's and LZ's fan base is distributed in all major markets, which is not really the case with DP, because DP is "only" big in Japan and parts of Europe, whereas in the US they have a smaller footprint and in other markets it's the same. If you think that until 30 years ago or so, the US accounted for about 40% of album sales worldwide, you can easily see how their status in Sweden, flattering as it may be, is not going to take them to the same level;-)




You say Purple is only big "in Japan and parts of Europe"..
I don't know any other band that have toured literally the whole world on such a high level as Purple.
They have been all over Russia, Asia, South America, Oceania and even Africa including the middle east.
And of course still tour Europe and North America succesfully.
People all over the world seems to know the songs, it will slowly change of course.
1 in 3 youths don't know who Elvis is any longer.

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