ritchie statement in new bn cd https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t19127 Runboard| ritchie statement in new bn cd en-us Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:29:11 +0000 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:29:11 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512753,from=rss#post512753https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512753,from=rss#post512753In reply to Bagshot even back in the "good 'ol times" bands are being ripped off. Black Sabbath being a prime example. I think the deal Creedence Clearwater Revival had was a "bad'un" too. Musicians and sports personalities don't all come with the best education levels ... being smart and clever with your cash is most likely very difficult especially when you have been touring around in a rusty transit van for 5 years eating pie and chips - you suddenly make it big and of course it goes into an overdrive mode in the opposite direction ... Some sports stars still haven't grown up: witness Rooney and the drink driving offence. Not particularity intelligent? How has he managed his money as it seems he can't manage himself??? There are numerous cases of ex footballers falling on bad times.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Blackmaple)Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:18:38 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512751,from=rss#post512751https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512751,from=rss#post512751he's admitted he needed the money.....badly. the DP reunion had fallen through. was paid well by all accounts. the other gillan guys assumed he was wealthy, which he can't especially have been. it's said after E H Reid passed away 1977 ish, a lot of financial carnage ensued. in the wake, RB had to pursue a more commercial direction. lord and Paice were forced out of retirement, Roger became more active. ditto Gillan.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Desperateheart)Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:04:57 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512745,from=rss#post512745https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512745,from=rss#post512745quote:Concrete god wrote: quote:BagShotBullets wrote: quote:mtb7 wrote: Wasn't Elton John in that situation? Talk about someone who made a ton of money. And in film, anyone noticed how many films Nicolas Cage made? Apparently he has significant debt he needs to pay off, at least that was the rumor. I'm sure you're right on both and this is what I mean, despite the apparently hi-roller status these guys enjoy, often the reality doesn't support it and their life style is more precarious than anyone might think, given their public persona. I don't doubt that Blackmore is very comfortably off, I'm not convinced he's mega rich and the same applies to the rest of the Purple crew. Gillan was a serious drinker, which doesn't usually go well with good money management, making financial decisions while drunk, doesn't usually lead to a great result!! You mean like Ian Gillan joining Black Sabbath? Was Gillan joining Sabbath a good financial move, I've no idea but perhaps he was well paid?? As a musical move it was a car crash I think it's fair to say. But if he agreed when it was drunk, which seems likely, then it clarifies the point that drinking and making big decisions don't sit well together!nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:09:20 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512743,from=rss#post512743https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512743,from=rss#post512743quote:BagShotBullets wrote: quote:mtb7 wrote: Wasn't Elton John in that situation? Talk about someone who made a ton of money. And in film, anyone noticed how many films Nicolas Cage made? Apparently he has significant debt he needs to pay off, at least that was the rumor. I'm sure you're right on both and this is what I mean, despite the apparently hi-roller status these guys enjoy, often the reality doesn't support it and their life style is more precarious than anyone might think, given their public persona. I don't doubt that Blackmore is very comfortably off, I'm not convinced he's mega rich and the same applies to the rest of the Purple crew. Gillan was a serious drinker, which doesn't usually go well with good money management, making financial decisions while drunk, doesn't usually lead to a great result!! You mean like Ian Gillan joining Black Sabbath? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:53:49 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512742,from=rss#post512742https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512742,from=rss#post512742So the conclusion is that if you are a rock star, beware.. You could end up on the street. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:51:28 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512735,from=rss#post512735https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512735,from=rss#post512735quote:harryurz wrote: Seems to me the music business is one where the financial dynamic has traditionally been very strange to us mere mortals. Musicians have had huge advances paid to them on yet-to-be-recorded albums, and then squandered vast amounts of cash and the album gets done on a shoestring. Similar to promo videos; the budget gets nearly spent on the video for the first single, and the second single promo (or even third) is a very obvious cheapo affair!! Its fun trying to spot the scenario with several 1980s bands! I cant recall who it was that recounted a story of a band, flush with money, booking a limo for each band member to pick them up from the airport on tour and take them to the hotels and venues. When they were told the band were paying for the limos out of their own cash they quickly stopped!! Some don't even get paid for services rendered; i.e. Tony Carey/Rainbow, and Roger Glover/producing Judas Priest. The Music Business makes the Wild West look like a kiddies tea party. People involved in the Music Business do things they would never dream of doing, or be able to get away with, in any other normal business. The tale of musicians who have earned fortunes and seen none of it, are legend, the money mysteriously "disappears". I know someone who was signed to a really major international label and was given access to a £250,000 advance to record the first album etc etc. Of course the money could only be spent in the studio chosen by the label, using the producer they chose, with video by their chosen video company and so the list went on. After agents fees were taken out( this was done as a side deal by one of the record co execs, somewhat predictably!) it all end up that the person involved became bankrupt due to owing £250K to the record company! The Cd was a flop and would never have recovered anything and the whole deal was really there just so the "side deal" could go on. Basically the label exec, employed by the major label, while drawing his label salary also coned artists out of cash they had for a supposed advance. All done perfectly legally, of course, but it was just a scam from start to finish. Just a way for an exec to suck more cash out while he could. So for all the dreamers out there who can't wait to be "signed by a major label" time to waken up and smell the coffee, the custard is shark infested and you'll just get eaten alive. Why ? Coz you're following your dream, and that's all it is a dream, but it makes you totally vulnerable to being totally manipulated. The money men just follow the money and f*ck your dream nonsense, they don't care at all, its only about money! Music Business is a very hard and difficult business to survive in at any level. It was much easier back in the day, now it's much more complicated and mature and the very few of the now "old rock stars" would even get a look in today, never mind a deal. Money, Money, Money........Abba got it right!nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:01:33 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512732,from=rss#post512732https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512732,from=rss#post512732or song writing contributions, Don and Graham allegedly on Down to earth. re limos..... think I've read that too. could it have been the unauthorised Yngwie biography 'As above, so below'. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Desperateheart)Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:33:13 +0000 Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512730,from=rss#post512730https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512730,from=rss#post512730Seems to me the music business is one where the financial dynamic has traditionally been very strange to us mere mortals. Musicians have had huge advances paid to them on yet-to-be-recorded albums, and then squandered vast amounts of cash and the album gets done on a shoestring. Similar to promo videos; the budget gets nearly spent on the video for the first single, and the second single promo (or even third) is a very obvious cheapo affair!! Its fun trying to spot the scenario with several 1980s bands! I cant recall who it was that recounted a story of a band, flush with money, booking a limo for each band member to pick them up from the airport on tour and take them to the hotels and venues. When they were told the band were paying for the limos out of their own cash they quickly stopped!! Some don't even get paid for services rendered; i.e. Tony Carey/Rainbow, and Roger Glover/producing Judas Priest. nondisclosed_email@example.com (harryurz)Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:06:53 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512683,from=rss#post512683https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512683,from=rss#post512683quote:mtb7 wrote: Wasn't Elton John in that situation? Talk about someone who made a ton of money. And in film, anyone noticed how many films Nicolas Cage made? Apparently he has significant debt he needs to pay off, at least that was the rumor. Wasn’t aware of Elton J being in that situation, although he has had some hefty legal bills over the last 18 months or so….  !! Pink Floyd were broke around the time of the wall, investments in a mine went awray and the management hadn’t paid tax on the previous earnings, unbelievable yet it’s not, as we now know this has happened to a number of other acts. Kiss, in the mid 80s were brassic. I imagine DP need to keep working, yeah, lifestyles have to be maintained and LP sales haven’t been strong for 20 years or more. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Desperateheart)Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:31:38 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512681,from=rss#post512681https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512681,from=rss#post512681quote:mtb7 wrote: Wasn't Elton John in that situation? Talk about someone who made a ton of money. And in film, anyone noticed how many films Nicolas Cage made? Apparently he has significant debt he needs to pay off, at least that was the rumor. I'm sure you're right on both and this is what I mean, despite the apparently hi-roller status these guys enjoy, often the reality doesn't support it and their life style is more precarious than anyone might think, given their public persona. I don't doubt that Blackmore is very comfortably off, I'm not convinced he's mega rich and the same applies to the rest of the Purple crew. Gillan was a serious drinker, which doesn't usually go well with good money management, making financial decisions while drunk, doesn't usually lead to a great result!!nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:00:08 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512677,from=rss#post512677https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512677,from=rss#post512677Wasn't Elton John in that situation? Talk about someone who made a ton of money. And in film, anyone noticed how many films Nicolas Cage made? Apparently he has significant debt he needs to pay off, at least that was the rumor.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mtb7)Mon, 18 Sep 2017 05:45:11 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512671,from=rss#post512671https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512671,from=rss#post512671quote:Early Eighties fan wrote: Of course they are, there is absolutely no way any of these guys are struggling for money. I'm sure you are correct....... BUT I think you would be better to say "there absolutely no way any of these guys SHOULD BE struggling for money" I say that because the reality is nobody actually knows if they are or they are not. it would not surprise me to find that Purple need to tour to earn as does Blackmore. Perhaps due to excesses of earlier times, or do to other circumstances, but nothing is certain at all in this life, except death and taxes! I've been surprised at how various seemingly very wealthy "stars" have turned out to be either on the point of bankruptcy or have quietly gone down that road. There is a vast amount of money being made in the Music Business, but getting your hands on it, as an artist, is far from easy, as these, seemingly very wealthy but actually failed "stars" are testament!nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:02:41 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512669,from=rss#post512669https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512669,from=rss#post512669quote:Concrete god wrote: Watching docu about swedish pop star Harpo. He had a massive hit in Europe in the mid seventies, "Moviestar" and a few other hits. He said Moviestar still pays for his horse farm and everything else. "I live a comfortable life".. I dare say Purple and it's various members is on a totally different level than Harpo these days. Of course they are, there is absolutely no way any of these guys are struggling for money. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Early Eighties fan)Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:30:23 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512635,from=rss#post512635https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512635,from=rss#post512635Watching docu about swedish pop star Harpo. He had a massive hit in Europe in the mid seventies, "Moviestar" and a few other hits. He said Moviestar still pays for his horse farm and everything else. "I live a comfortable life".. I dare say Purple and it's various members is on a totally different level than Harpo these days.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:51:03 +0000 Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512586,from=rss#post512586https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512586,from=rss#post512586Interesting thread! On the commercial rewards of Purple -and Blackmore- one has to remember the financial benefits go in cycles. HEC enterprises -the management of DP in their heyday- controlled the money rolling in, and accountant EH Reid made arrangements to minimise tax and outgoings. The 'proverbial hit the fan' circa 1977 when Reid suddenly died, leaving little documentation where much of the money was invested- all ex members along with Colletta/Edwards were significantly affected. Blackmore had indeedy self-financed Rainbow until this time and its understandable this made him decide to go the AOR/commercial route; I suspect he had little choice. Sell more records or dump Rainbow as a project. Add to the pot that Gillan was bankrupted by his hotel and motorcycle investments, Paice and Lord lost a fortune with PAL, and its not surprising the band reformed- what is surprising it took them until 1984!! Back catalogue sales indeed bring money in but its evident from the legal proceedings the Purple members have taken in the past few years that due payments have not been received. I suspect the Rainbow official "bootleg" releases recently have benefited Bruce Payne as well as Ritchie, for minimum outlay. Payne I believe owns around 50% of the Rainbow publishing (as Thames Talent. I dont believe Ritchie does anything he doesnt want to do, irrespective of money, creativity, art or spousal pressure!    nondisclosed_email@example.com (harryurz)Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:51:45 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512077,from=rss#post512077https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512077,from=rss#post512077There are in fact two escapes (maybe three...): 1) Go and play your favourite DP/Rainbow/Whitesnake album at full blast and everything and everyone else can go to h*ll, 2) Alternatively play your electric guitar at stupidly high volumes. Both methods are guaranteed to drown out all (anti) social media and other modern stupidity... for a while at least 3) I leave to your imaginationnondisclosed_email@example.com (Blackmaple)Tue, 22 Aug 2017 17:56:20 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512064,from=rss#post512064https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512064,from=rss#post512064quote:niji wrote: The question is if the early teens were familiar with the band or just wore a "cool" or "obscure" patch from a band they know nothing about (Just like kids have worn Led Zeppelin or Rolling Stones t-shirts for years.) I like that the bands get some exposure though. But it would be even nicer to know that they were actually familiar with the music. Of course there are always people who genuinely are into music and will discover this music decades from now as well. But the majority isn't interested in music at all. For them, it's all about what's popular this week and what their friends are listening to (which depends on where they live etc) So called social-media has a lot to answer for and might well more appropriately be called anti-social-media. These days people spend more time communicating by their smart phone than they do in person. Some even sit in the same room and message each other via phones! George Orwell predicted all this sort of stuff for his 1984 book, he maybe was a bit out on the timescales, but the future he saw where the "proles" were fed manufactured music to keep them happy, had screens to receive the messages of Big Brother and were traceable everywhere, appear to be upon us now...... Big Time! If you use a mobile, you can't escape it ever these days "why didn't you answer your phone when I called ?"............ "maybe coz I was fu*king your wife at the time!" It's a total snoopers charter these days as is facebook, instagram, snapchat etc etc There no escape. nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Tue, 22 Aug 2017 10:30:16 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512063,from=rss#post512063https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512063,from=rss#post512063The question is if the early teens were familiar with the band or just wore a "cool" or "obscure" patch from a band they know nothing about (Just like kids have worn Led Zeppelin or Rolling Stones t-shirts for years.) I like that the bands get some exposure though. But it would be even nicer to know that they were actually familiar with the music. Of course there are always people who genuinely are into music and will discover this music decades from now as well. But the majority isn't interested in music at all. For them, it's all about what's popular this week and what their friends are listening to (which depends on where they live etc) nondisclosed_email@example.com (niji)Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:53:18 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512062,from=rss#post512062https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512062,from=rss#post512062quote:David Meadows wrote: you'll hear them on the specialist rock radio stations (but even there, Planet Rock (for example) plays Led Zep three times a night, Purple once a week). And just eight hours after I posted this, Planet Rock shocked me by playing All I've Got Is You They played Led Zeppelin a few minutes later, though, so balance is restored to the world nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:44:53 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512054,from=rss#post512054https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512054,from=rss#post512054quote:Early Eighties fan wrote: quote:BagShotBullets wrote: quote:Concrete god wrote: quote:mtb7 wrote: Also, ABBA's and LZ's fan base is distributed in all major markets, which is not really the case with DP, because DP is "only" big in Japan and parts of Europe, whereas in the US they have a smaller footprint and in other markets it's the same. If you think that until 30 years ago or so, the US accounted for about 40% of album sales worldwide, you can easily see how their status in Sweden, flattering as it may be, is not going to take them to the same level;-) You say Purple is only big "in Japan and parts of Europe".. I don't know any other band that have toured literally the whole world on such a high level as Purple. They have been all over Russia, Asia, South America, Oceania and even Africa including the middle east. And of course still tour Europe and North America succesfully. People all over the world seems to know the songs, it will slowly change of course. 1 in 3 youths don't know who Elvis is any longer. For what it's worth probably less than 1 in 1 youths have the faintest idea who Ritchie Blackmore and Rainbow are. In the UK Rainbow is a kids cult TV show and or something to do with a Gay lifestyle. Not true, I have seen early teens recently walking about with "RB`s Rainbow " patches on their jackets, very surreal because that was me ( and others on here) quite a few moons ago! The point is quality always attracts interest, even decades later, and a few seconds on a smartphone searching say NWOBHM would yield a treasure trove of music and bands for anyone with even a passing interest. IMO less youngsters would know about the TV show than RB`s band. If you honestly believe that EEF, then I think you must still think it's the early 80's and your still living in that time. Rainbow and Blackmore mean virtually nothing to most of todays UK youths in terms of ever being a band. Most of them were brought up with RAINBOW meaning something entirely different, .... TV Show for kids .... a LBGT symbol, something in the sky when it's rained. They don't remember much before U2 or Oasis etc etc etc and for them the crap these bands produced is what they consider to be Rock. Mostly it's a case of Blackmore who? They know Smoke On the Water, but they don't associate that with Blackmore, they associate that with playstation games like "Rock Star" or whatever the feck it's called, where people pretend to play along to tunes like SOTW and Paradise City etc etc. SO I reckon you're a mile off the mark there EEF nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:47:38 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512052,from=rss#post512052https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512052,from=rss#post512052quote:Concrete god wrote: quote:BagShotBullets wrote: It has been claimed that Graham Bonnet received $12,000in total from his Rainbow experience, Album, Touring etc etc. Frankly that doesn't surprise me at all. Roger Glover said at one point the Rainbow operation was costs $50,000 a week to keep it running, no doubt because all the roadies, had roadies who had roadies etc etc. It's amazing how many of these elder rock stars who should be worth Millions simply are not. I'm not 100% on this but I read that Uli Jon Roth was about to file for bankruptcy last year following an issue with taxes and a failed studio venture. So it's not allfast cars and loose women. BN was going out for £6-15K a night a while back, but the costs will be fairly horrendous with so many players, crew and everything else. Typically they only do 6 dates on an outing, so do the maths. I'm sure Blackmore is very comfortable with no need to worry about money, but I'm less sure he's super rich at this stage. Hence the Rainbow revival plan. 12000 usd..? It was a lot more 37 years ago, but still sounds ridiculously low? Even a very low income job pays better than that these days. Well he didn't write any of it so he loses out on publishing royalties so all he would get are performance royalties (assuming he didn't take some sort of lump sum salary type of deal) which doesn't amount to much. So $12k is not outside of the realm of possibilities nondisclosed_email@example.com (RatBatBlu)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:42:38 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512050,from=rss#post512050https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512050,from=rss#post512050quote:David Meadows wrote: BSB is right. Purple/Rainbow have almost zero mainstream profile here in the UK. Sure, you'll hear them on the specialist rock radio stations (but even there, Planet Rock (for example) plays Led Zep three times a night, Purple once a week). But those are niche stations with small audiences. Classic rock simply doesn't get play on the big daytime stations (millions of listeners instead of a few thousand) at all. Comparing Purple with ABBA in recognition and sales, in the UK, is a joke. Everybody from kids to grannies knows ABBA, every wedding DJ will play them, I once saw an ABBA *tribute* band with a bigger audience than some DP shows I've been to. Then there was the stage show which ran for like a billion performances and spawned a movie packed with Hollywood megastars. You add it all up, and the ABBA songwriters must be millionaires many times over. They could probably give every penny they currently have to charity and be millionaires again by this time next year because THAT'S HOW MANY TIMES ABBA SONGS ARE PLAYED. Honestly, not making any judgement of musical worth at all, just on sales, current recognition levels, and overall market penetration, Purple and ABBA can't even be put on the same graph. Having said that, Jon Lord once said (not too long ago) that he still got a five-figure annual income from Smoke on the Water. So it's hard to imagine Purple members being flat broke Out of curiousity I searched the biggest rock radio channel in Sweden, Radio Bandit, two days back. LZ 3 plays DP 2 BS 2 Rainbow 3!! Whitesnake 3!! DIO 2 and they don't play ABBA.. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:45:15 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512049,from=rss#post512049https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512049,from=rss#post512049quote:David Meadows wrote: BSB is right. Purple/Rainbow have almost zero mainstream profile here in the UK. Sure, you'll hear them on the specialist rock radio stations (but even there, Planet Rock (for example) plays Led Zep three times a night, Purple once a week). But those are niche stations with small audiences. Classic rock simply doesn't get play on the big daytime stations (millions of listeners instead of a few thousand) at all. ) Thank God radio is not THAT relevant anymore. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Knopflers Fingers)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:38:56 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512047,from=rss#post512047https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512047,from=rss#post512047quote:BagShotBullets wrote: quote:Concrete god wrote: quote:mtb7 wrote: Also, ABBA's and LZ's fan base is distributed in all major markets, which is not really the case with DP, because DP is "only" big in Japan and parts of Europe, whereas in the US they have a smaller footprint and in other markets it's the same. If you think that until 30 years ago or so, the US accounted for about 40% of album sales worldwide, you can easily see how their status in Sweden, flattering as it may be, is not going to take them to the same level;-) You say Purple is only big "in Japan and parts of Europe".. I don't know any other band that have toured literally the whole world on such a high level as Purple. They have been all over Russia, Asia, South America, Oceania and even Africa including the middle east. And of course still tour Europe and North America succesfully. People all over the world seems to know the songs, it will slowly change of course. 1 in 3 youths don't know who Elvis is any longer. For what it's worth probably less than 1 in 1 youths have the faintest idea who Ritchie Blackmore and Rainbow are. In the UK Rainbow is a kids cult TV show and or something to do with a Gay lifestyle. Not true, I have seen early teens recently walking about with "RB`s Rainbow " patches on their jackets, very surreal because that was me ( and others on here) quite a few moons ago! The point is quality always attracts interest, even decades later, and a few seconds on a smartphone searching say NWOBHM would yield a treasure trove of music and bands for anyone with even a passing interest. IMO less youngsters would know about the TV show than RB`s band. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Early Eighties fan)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:08:02 +0000 Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512046,from=rss#post512046https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512046,from=rss#post512046I'm sure it was Jon Lord who answered the question "what does SOTW mean to you?" with "about £100k per year" but i got the sense that a significant part of that sum was from radio airplay royalties not new album sales.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Perfectly Strange)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:25:03 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512044,from=rss#post512044https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512044,from=rss#post512044It's interesting just how big ABBA are in the UK and also Australia. Bigger than in Sweden even. Of course the likes of ABBA, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd have a bigger following than Purple. But like you say David, they (dp) are not poor..nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:15:58 +0000 Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512038,from=rss#post512038https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512038,from=rss#post512038BSB is right. Purple/Rainbow have almost zero mainstream profile here in the UK. Sure, you'll hear them on the specialist rock radio stations (but even there, Planet Rock (for example) plays Led Zep three times a night, Purple once a week). But those are niche stations with small audiences. Classic rock simply doesn't get play on the big daytime stations (millions of listeners instead of a few thousand) at all. Comparing Purple with ABBA in recognition and sales, in the UK, is a joke. Everybody from kids to grannies knows ABBA, every wedding DJ will play them, I once saw an ABBA *tribute* band with a bigger audience than some DP shows I've been to. Then there was the stage show which ran for like a billion performances and spawned a movie packed with Hollywood megastars. You add it all up, and the ABBA songwriters must be millionaires many times over. They could probably give every penny they currently have to charity and be millionaires again by this time next year because THAT'S HOW MANY TIMES ABBA SONGS ARE PLAYED. Honestly, not making any judgement of musical worth at all, just on sales, current recognition levels, and overall market penetration, Purple and ABBA can't even be put on the same graph. Having said that, Jon Lord once said (not too long ago) that he still got a five-figure annual income from Smoke on the Water. So it's hard to imagine Purple members being flat broke nondisclosed_email@example.com (David Meadows)Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:45:39 +0000 Re: Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512034,from=rss#post512034https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512034,from=rss#post512034quote:Concrete god wrote: quote:mtb7 wrote: Also, ABBA's and LZ's fan base is distributed in all major markets, which is not really the case with DP, because DP is "only" big in Japan and parts of Europe, whereas in the US they have a smaller footprint and in other markets it's the same. If you think that until 30 years ago or so, the US accounted for about 40% of album sales worldwide, you can easily see how their status in Sweden, flattering as it may be, is not going to take them to the same level;-) You say Purple is only big "in Japan and parts of Europe".. I don't know any other band that have toured literally the whole world on such a high level as Purple. They have been all over Russia, Asia, South America, Oceania and even Africa including the middle east. And of course still tour Europe and North America succesfully. People all over the world seems to know the songs, it will slowly change of course. 1 in 3 youths don't know who Elvis is any longer. For what it's worth probably less than 1 in 1 youths have the faintest idea who Ritchie Blackmore and Rainbow are. In the UK Rainbow is a kids cult TV show and or something to do with a Gay lifestyle.nondisclosed_email@example.com (BagShotBullets)Sun, 20 Aug 2017 19:05:48 +0000 Re: ritchie statement in new bn cdhttps://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512031,from=rss#post512031https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512031,from=rss#post512031Agree, the touring have been just too much and often. People start to loose interest in the end. I did for sure, haven't seen them for seven years now. But this time (last time?) I will go.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Concrete god)Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:13:44 +0000 Re:https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512030,from=rss#post512030https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p512030,from=rss#post512030I agree that touring everywhere is a really good thing, allowing many more people to experience them live; my only complaint about that is that they have toured too much, as in too many dates - there has been a degree of burnout by Ritchie, Jon left for the same reason and Steve has often stated openly he would have liked less tours. And the "event" dimension has been lost completely: if they are in town for every new album it's nice, but if they pop up five or six times between an album and the next, it starts to become banal. So yes, widespread tours - but perhaps not as often.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mtb7)Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:58:26 +0000