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Ritchie Guitar sound - Slaves and Masters Tour 1991


I would contend that his sound on the S&M tour is possibly his best ever, leading to some amazing lead guitar work.
The 1993 tour sound of course similar and without question even better playing if [sign in to see URL], there’s something extra in [sign in to see URL] perhaps. When he moved to Engls all that seemed to be lost, still a good sound but lacking meat/tone.

What do you think?
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Hi,
Been here for some years but new in this message section.
Agree about the sound on S&M and really like that album. Do not understand why that many of you rate it as one of their worst album. I think it is top 5-7.
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yeah, I'm sure it has but is Ritchie specific and links into the Stranger in us all period too.

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Desperateheart wrote:

I would contend that his sound on the S&M tour is possibly his best ever, leading to some amazing lead guitar work.
The 1993 tour sound of course similar and without question even better playing if [sign in to see URL], there’s something extra in [sign in to see URL] perhaps. When he moved to Engls all that seemed to be lost, still a good sound but lacking meat/tone.

What do you think?


His sound during the SIUA era was in my view his very best since Made In Japan. Some of the live recordings from the 1995/97 shows are really good.

The ENGLS he used as cabinet drivers are the same basic power stage as usual for Blackmore ie KT88 valves, just like the Marshal Majors. The combo( previously an AC30) was the Sovereign 2x12 or Sovereign 1x2 he uses still today and the tape deck of course. The Marshalls pre-amps are rubbish, low grade, low quality, which is probably why the AIWA tape deck was used as a quality pre-amp. The ENGL amps are an entirely different proposition in terms of quality and build.

Listen to old live recordings from some of the Deep Purple and Rainbow shows his sound was chronic on many of them, just noisy and harsh and hardly anything to write home about.

I saw them on the S&M tour and it was all very lack-lustre and the experiments, had at that stage, just begun with the GR50 Guitar synth, which he still uses today. Back then it wasn't nearly as polished as it is now today, he was clearly learning how to make it work for him. Now it's integral to his sound right to today.

So my vote is for the SIUA era, after MIJ.
and I mean for LIVE sound not what he did in the studio, which is not of any interest to me personally

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personally think his live sound was best during MK3 DP and early Rainbow, but yes the sound was great through S&M and TBRO tours onto SIUA
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personally think his live sound was best during MK3 DP and early Rainbow, but yes the sound was great through S&M and TBRO tours onto SIUA



Agreed!!
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Hi,
Been here for some years but new in this message section.
Agree about the sound on S&M and really like that album. Do not understand why that many of you rate it as one of their worst album. I think it is top 5-7.




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Hi,
Been here for some years but new in this message section.
Agree about the sound on S&M and really like that album. Do not understand why that many of you rate it as one of their worst album. I think it is top 5-7.



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S&M was still his Majors and Bill Lawrence dual blade pickups.

TBRO was Majors with Lace Sensors.

SIUA was Engl w/Lace Sensors.

But I agree, his tone from S&M on has been great as was MK III and Rainbow up to '76.
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I have understood that the SIUA studio amps were Majors, whereas on tour he used Engl 120W Savages.

I thought his live sound from the period was sublime. I think the Dusseldorf show on DVD captured it well. He apparently used the crunch channel on those Engl 120W Savages.

The Blackmore Signature model didn't come until later.
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