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I think that I mentioned trying some new tunes during the PS tour. I would think that they might have had something in the pipeline that they could have tried out.


I heard many recordings from 1984 and 1985, and I couldn't spot any signs of new ideas being tried out. Sadly. Also, I don't know any interviews from that time in which something like that was mentioned. Finally, there are some jams existing in which they developed ideas for the S&M and TBRO albums, for HOBL nothing like that exists. If they had any ideas for new songs at that time, they must have hidden them very carefully. emoticon



Yeah, it is too bad. I would have thought that they would have had some more ideas going forward. After eleven years apart, the time was ripe for creating some more new tunes. As I said, maybe they were more concentrated on making the PS tour happen than on what might be the future.
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not at all. Wierdistan is one of my all time favourite tracks (most listens of any track on my ipod) but i still can't get all the lyrics right. Ditto Rapture. But i can remember every damn word of painted horse- which certainly isn't my favourite DP track.



I think there's a difference in the way we listen when we get older. Well, there is for me, anyway. When I was young, I would get a new album and sit down and play it on repeat all afternoon with the lyric sheet in front of me. Now, I simply don't have the leisure to do that. It might be on my mp3 player a lot, but that's not the same as concentrating and absorbing lyrics.




Very true, I did it just the same. These days not, since so many damn things to do all the time.
And maybe interest is just a tad lower.



Very good points chaps. And it doesn't help that my peepers aren't up to the microscopic size of font the lyrics are printed in on CD inlays!

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If they had put out HOBL earlier, it could have worked out even worse. For me, a creative process must not follow marketing issues. If there's no ideas for songs, it has no point to make an album.



I was always gobsmacked that they didn't tape, say all the Budokan dates in '85, and issue a live album to fill the gap before HOBL. Would've also enabled them to pension off a couple of MIJ tracks before the HOBL tour as well.

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I was always gobsmacked that they didn't tape, say all the Budokan dates in '85, and issue a live album to fill the gap before HOBL. Would've also enabled them to pension off a couple of MIJ tracks before the HOBL tour as well.


I could imagine that there simply wasn't too much demand for a live album. In the mid-1980's the time of "we want a live album from every tour" hadn't yet begun.

Moreover, Bruce Springsteen had released his famous five LP live set in 1985, no DP live album would have had a chance to compete with that. Beside that, perhaps the record company wanted to release something but the musicians didn't want because they weren't satisfied with the performances. Ian Gillan isn't a big fan of live albums anyway.

I read an interview with Roger Glover about the production of Nobody's Perfect. He said it had been quite difficult to pick versions of the songs which satisfied the band members. Ian wasn't pleased with his vocal perfomance on version A, Ritchie didn't like his guitar solo on version B and so on. So he mixed some songs (e.g. Child In Time) from more than once source. To me it feels that the band wasn't too exited about releasing a live album, it was more due to the pressure of the public. They wanted a "1980's Made In Japan", and of course no DP reunion recording can come close to that.
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Wierdistan is one of my all time favourite tracks (most listens of any track on my ipod) but i still can't get all the lyrics right. Ditto Rapture. But i can remember every damn word of painted horse- which certainly isn't my favourite DP track.


The lyrics of Painted Horse are quite short. emoticon
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I was always gobsmacked that they didn't tape, say all the Budokan dates in '85, and issue a live album to fill the gap before HOBL. Would've also enabled them to pension off a couple of MIJ tracks before the HOBL tour as well.


I could imagine that there simply wasn't too much demand for a live album. In the mid-1980's the time of "we want a live album from every tour" hadn't yet begun.

Moreover, Bruce Springsteen had released his famous five LP live set in 1985, no DP live album would have had a chance to compete with that. Beside that, perhaps the record company wanted to release something but the musicians didn't want because they weren't satisfied with the performances. Ian Gillan isn't a big fan of live albums anyway.

I read an interview with Roger Glover about the production of Nobody's Perfect. He said it had been quite difficult to pick versions of the songs which satisfied the band members. Ian wasn't pleased with his vocal perfomance on version A, Ritchie didn't like his guitar solo on version B and so on. So he mixed some songs (e.g. Child In Time) from more than once source. To me it feels that the band wasn't too exited about releasing a live album, it was more due to the pressure of the public. They wanted a "1980's Made In Japan", and of course no DP reunion recording can come close to that.


Since they were second to Springsteen during the PS tour, I would think that they would have had success on a live album.

Gillan's live performances haven't been that great since early Gillan. emoticon It is no wonder that he isn't too keen on live albums, especially these days.
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I was always gobsmacked that they didn't tape, say all the Budokan dates in '85, and issue a live album to fill the gap before HOBL. Would've also enabled them to pension off a couple of MIJ tracks before the HOBL tour as well.


I could imagine that there simply wasn't too much demand for a live album. In the mid-1980's the time of "we want a live album from every tour" hadn't yet begun.

Moreover, Bruce Springsteen had released his famous five LP live set in 1985, no DP live album would have had a chance to compete with that. Beside that, perhaps the record company wanted to release something but the musicians didn't want because they weren't satisfied with the performances. Ian Gillan isn't a big fan of live albums anyway.

I read an interview with Roger Glover about the production of Nobody's Perfect. He said it had been quite difficult to pick versions of the songs which satisfied the band members. Ian wasn't pleased with his vocal perfomance on version A, Ritchie didn't like his guitar solo on version B and so on. So he mixed some songs (e.g. Child In Time) from more than once source. To me it feels that the band wasn't too exited about releasing a live album, it was more due to the pressure of the public. They wanted a "1980's Made In Japan", and of course no DP reunion recording can come close to that.



Nobody's Perfect as released to fulfil contractual obligations.
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Nobody's Perfect as released to fulfil contractual obligations.


Ah, the rules of the business strike again.

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I was always gobsmacked that they didn't tape, say all the Budokan dates in '85, and issue a live album to fill the gap before HOBL. Would've also enabled them to pension off a couple of MIJ tracks before the HOBL tour as well.


I could imagine that there simply wasn't too much demand for a live album. In the mid-1980's the time of "we want a live album from every tour" hadn't yet begun.

Moreover, Bruce Springsteen had released his famous five LP live set in 1985, no DP live album would have had a chance to compete with that. Beside that, perhaps the record company wanted to release something but the musicians didn't want because they weren't satisfied with the performances. Ian Gillan isn't a big fan of live albums anyway.

I read an interview with Roger Glover about the production of Nobody's Perfect. He said it had been quite difficult to pick versions of the songs which satisfied the band members. Ian wasn't pleased with his vocal perfomance on version A, Ritchie didn't like his guitar solo on version B and so on. So he mixed some songs (e.g. Child In Time) from more than once source. To me it feels that the band wasn't too exited about releasing a live album, it was more due to the pressure of the public. They wanted a "1980's Made In Japan", and of course no DP reunion recording can come close to that.



For me Nobody's perfect is the low point of all Mark 2 release's. Too many cooks..

As i've posted before a combo of the soundboard bootlegs from '87/88 produces a much better representation of that era of DP, and whilst not MIJ (what could be?)- it's still damned exciting, probably because the band didn't interfere.

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Nobody's Perfect as released to fulfil contractual obligations.


Ah, the rules of the business strike again.




And the compilation "Under The Gun" also. Releasing these two albums allowed them to move record labels.

And of course the first album on the new label was S&M emoticon
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