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I pretty much agree with you Litb. For me, the highlight of the live shows was Lord's solo's in DTC and ST.



100% agree. I loved the Knebworth concert. Of course IG'S voice was shot, and the guitar solo was just noise, but I loved it.




i was very dissapointed with the Knebworth performance, some say i expected too much??But given what they showed on the TBRO almost a decade later then it seems i didn't ?



I never thought that the Knebworth show was all that bad, considering the conditions. Gillan's voice was iffy at best, but not as bad as some later shows. Blackers seemed to play angry and I think that he was OK.

Taking in some consideration of what IG had done to his voice, there were some shows where Gillan sounded pretty good, all things considered. The first Detroit PS show and the HOBL Toledo show. The second Detroit show had Gillan a bit ragged. Blackers and Lord blew the joint up on all three shows. Blackers played Toledo many times over the years and I think that he enjoyed the smaller venue. We brought a lot of energy to the now-demolished Sports Arena and many top acts played there.

I've seen some of the Alpine Valley stuff and I think that Gillan is a somewhat below the second Detroit show and way below the first Detroit show and the Toledo show. I think that RB tried to modernize his sound during this period instead of being his usual self. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't Strangely, I think that he got back to some of his better playing during the S&M tour and just killed on the TBRO tour.

I don't think that this is as good as the Perfect Strangers Live release. Either way, it is an OK show, from what I've seen of it.
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We brought a lot of energy to the now-demolished Sports Arena and many top acts played there.




Oh man, seriously? I saw a lot of great shows there, including HoBL. When did they level it? Did they build anything in replacement?
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We brought a lot of energy to the now-demolished Sports Arena and many top acts played there.




Oh man, seriously? I saw a lot of great shows there, including HoBL. When did they level it? Did they build anything in replacement?



They took it down ten years ago. It was a great venue. We had all the top groups play there, including the infamous Yes show where the temps got over 120 degrees and the Alice Cooper show where some idiot tossed an M80 on stage. Alice was pretty chipped and didn't play here again for a number of years, but Yes came back not long after and put on a great show.

The HOBL show was great. I thought that Gillan sounded pretty good and the band was cooking. The opening act was Bad Company with Brian Howe in place of Rodgers, who I think was touring with Page and the Firm. They did a nice job.

They put a new arena in the middle of town. It's a beautiful place, but parking basically sucks. Elton John has played here, along with Bob Seger and other big headliners.
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Personally i feel cheated by what they delivered in the 80s when you consider just how brilliant they were on the TBRO tour.



To be honest, I don't really understand all the fuss about the TBRO tour.

Judging from Stuttgart shows, Blackmore sounded like his usual Rainbow-era self with the trademark high-gain sound and octave divider firmly in place. Along with the usual nonsensical solo passages that sounded completely out of place compared to what the rest of the band were playing.

Jon's organ sound completely lacked in power, very much in the vein of his Whitesnake years. The moment he stopped using direct Marshall amplification somewhere around Burn, things were never the same again for him in terms of sheer power and volume.

The thing I dislike most about individual songs as far as old material goes is probably Paicey's treatment of CiT middle/solos section. Whatever he plays there sounds messy and annoying.

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Sound wise there may have been some weak points during the TBRO tour indeed. Playing wise, it was the best post-reunion tour imho. Not every single note, every solo, every intro and outro, but as a whole.
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Sound wise there may have been some weak points during the TBRO tour indeed. Playing wise, it was the best post-reunion tour imho. Not every single note, every solo, every intro and outro, but as a whole.



Yeah, it's just that I've seen people qualify the Stuttgart recordings as the "MiJ of the 90's", which I find a bit of an exaggeration.

And yeah, Stuttgart's Woman From Tokyo contains the worst vocal bits I've ever heard from IG. His attempts at screaming during the end of the song make an impression of an old sick woman being stabbed with a knife.
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Musical Quality is different to each person. I think the 1993 tour had some of the best musical moments of any DP Era. Stuttgart is fantastic to these ears. Both Jon and Ritchie played great!!

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Yeah, it's just that I've seen people qualify the Stuttgart recordings as the "MiJ of the 90's", which I find a bit of an exaggeration.


I understand this as "what MIJ is for the 1970's, Stuttgart is for the 1990's". And for me there's some truth in that. Although Stuttgart of course can't compete with MIJ in a "one by one comparison".
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Musical Quality is different to each person. I think the 1993 tour had some of the best musical moments of any DP Era. Stuttgart is fantastic to these ears. Both Jon and Ritchie played great!!



They were both immense on TBRO tour in 93. However IG was shocking throughout the whole tour. Whatever the right and wrong of the situation I can fully understand that RB had had enough of IG not being able to sing. The aforementioned Woman From Tokyo is a shocking example of his singing circa early 90's.
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Just gave a spin to a few tracks from Brussels 1993 and it seems the gig was almost as good as the Stuttgart one, with both Blackers and especially Gillan in fine form.
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