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For me, tribute bands are a legitime expression of fandom. They do the same as we do: They worship their idols. They just do it in a different way than we do: They don't just listen to the records and visit the shows, they try to play the songs themselves.

Whether this is interesting for the listener is another question.



They play the notes, well most of them, but they can`t channel the emotion, Blackmore like Rory Gallagher and others was all about opening up and letting the emotion rip. If you watch Sinead O'Connor being interviewed on "Needle Time" (Vintage TV) she talks about singing lessons she took that concentrated on emotions rather than singing scales/intervals or whatever, and accepting that the human voice will naturally go to the notes it needs if the singer is in the right emotional space. Blackmore did this with his guitar IMO, although the basic riffs are often simple 4th`s or 5th`s etc. The only way these tribute guys can make a buck is to hang on the coat tails of a big name, but I don`t doubt they are true fans and into the music though, it is just that their own stuff isn`t going to capture much attention.

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For me, tribute bands are a legitime expression of fandom. They do the same as we do: They worship their idols. They just do it in a different way than we do: They don't just listen to the records and visit the shows, they try to play the songs themselves.

Whether this is interesting for the listener is another question.



They play the notes, well most of them, but they can`t channel the emotion, Blackmore like Rory Gallagher and others was all about opening up and letting the emotion rip. If you watch Sinead O'Connor being interviewed on "Needle Time" (Vintage TV) she talks about singing lessons she took that concentrated on emotions rather than singing scales/intervals or whatever, and accepting that the human voice will naturally go to the notes it needs if the singer is in the right emotional space. Blackmore did this with his guitar IMO, although the basic riffs are often simple 4th`s or 5th`s etc. The only way these tribute guys can make a buck is to hang on the coat tails of a big name, but I don`t doubt they are true fans and into the music though, it is just that their own stuff isn`t going to capture much attention.




Very Well put and this is exactly the issue with Tributes. They go through the motions but there is nothing behind it. They don't feel the music in the same way as the person who wrote did, it's impossible, hence they might play most of the notes but it's just not the same. For some, as you say, it's just a way to make a buck.

I'd never pay to see a tribute play, I'd sooner they didn't bother and wouldn't want to encourage them!
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As much as I enjoyed seeing Demon's Eye a couple of times, they are in the end just a tribute band.

There is a brilliant passage in a Steven Wilson song Luminol (which seems to be about a busker but fits this theme of tribute bands 'going through the motions') which I cannot but copy here as it expresses the sentiment of the posts above with almost poetic quality:

He strums the chords with less than grace
(songs we all know)
Each passing year etched on his face
(sun, rain or snow)
The words he sings are not his own
They speak of things he'll never know
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As much as I enjoyed seeing Demon's Eye a couple of times, they are in the end just a tribute band.

There is a brilliant passage in a Steven Wilson song Luminol (which seems to be about a busker but fits this theme of tribute bands 'going through the motions') which I cannot but copy here as it expresses the sentiment of the posts above with almost poetic quality:

He strums the chords with less than grace
(songs we all know)
Each passing year etched on his face
(sun, rain or snow)
The words he sings are not his own
They speak of things he'll never know



100% spot on there, sums up the tribute band very nicely.
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All [sign in to see URL] you can search YouTube and find brilliant renditions of Blackmore and other artists, done in someone`s bedroom, and done with real energy and passion? IMO anyone who goes to the trouble of dressing up like Blackmore, and gigging, and doing Blackmore moves etc., maybe needs to look at alternative employment, because although they are good on their chosen instrument they may be suppressing their own personality and creativity to a level that could be unhealthy? The beauty of the internet world is that whatever you choose to express SOMEONE will see it, and probably more people will see it on a YouTube video than will see you wearing a funny hat in some obscure boozer, so the only reason not to push ahead with your own output is that there is more coin in pretending to be RB?
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It's [sign in to see URL] mean, I prefer originals [sign in to see URL] I am not sure creativity has to be viewed as a must, and not just in music - the world is full of painters copying famous paintings, and equally the most skilled trained musicians, those who graduated in the most difficult conservatories on the planet, seem generally happy to spend a lifetime as professional musicians never writing a single measure of original music, and focussing instead on the interpretation of this or that passage written centuries [sign in to see URL] knows.
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It's [sign in to see URL] mean, I prefer originals [sign in to see URL] I am not sure creativity has to be viewed as a must, and not just in music - the world is full of painters copying famous paintings, and equally the most skilled trained musicians, those who graduated in the most difficult conservatories on the planet, seem generally happy to spend a lifetime as professional musicians never writing a single measure of original music, and focussing instead on the interpretation of this or that passage written centuries [sign in to see URL] knows.



Copying is a skill for sure. However a copy is never more than a copy, it has no where to go beyond being a copy. To be a copier means waiting for the next original to allow you to copy it. That's what Tributes do, in the main. If they didn't copy exactly it would be more creative, more original and sound more natural. They usually don't. despite that fact that in Blackmore's case he rarely played exactly the same solo twice, the tributes lock into one version and copy it. Hence the somewhat poor Mistreated intro drivel on the Blackmore's Blood clip, I've seen the same thing done by Mark Zak of Demon's eye, virtually identical and it was equally lame too! Neither the technical skill nor the real "feel/passion" which created the music is present.

Its a skill to copy for sure, but like all skills there are some who really have it and others who just don't. Overall though, it's pointless as it's all already been done and done much much better. SO in the end you must conclude the real reason for the tribute is to earn more from gigs, which some doesn't sit well with actually being a "tribute", more like a parasitical rip-off than a tribute really!
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Having said that, and being a bit lighter, I much prefer Blackmore's Blonde to Blackmore's Blood!;-)
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I'm a bit late in the day in coming in on this thread (just by a year), but having seen the band, felt I needed to respond to the comments here.
I'm with you BSB when you say why have hamburger when you can have steak? I'm a lifelong Ritchie fan of 45 years or so, and have never been a tribute band fan. However a good friend of mine, massive RB fan, spent many months trying to persuade me to go... And boy am I glad I did!
Regarding the comment that they don't take themselves too seriously, they do take themselves seriously, and rightly so. How can they get that authentic look (guitarist) and sound correct if they don't take themselves seriously?
Re the pork pie hat - it isn't, it's a Top Hat, I've seen it in the flesh ... a bit below the belt there, an unnecessary dig, my opinion..
Re the guitar on the amp - I saw that back in the 70's, credit to the guitarist for doing his homework.
Regarding the guys playing note for note, what's wrong with that? They're a tribute band, and a very good one at that. Remember the videos you're watching here are mobile phone uploads. I remember when going to see RB in Birmingham 2016, seeing the phone uploads from Loreley I was thinking oh my god what am I going to see! But that was all wrong, it was just the poor quality of the recordings, TMIB in person was awesome. So don't knock this band if you haven't seen them in person - which I have, and I will again, and again, and again.
And if the guitarist plays pretty much note for note, I'm happy with that, I want to be able to shut my eyes and hear TMIB in the room... and that's just what I got when I went to Blackmore's Blood..
I'll add a final note on the end here. I've just been to see these guys again at the weekend and wish I'd thought to video the jam session in the second set between guitarist, keyboards and bass, and then hear you say why can't they play their own thing. But then again, it would only be another mobile phone upload, so you're not going to be able to appreciate the real extent of their talent and may well just criticize again. The self depreciating comments by the singer? I still haven't heard them after seeing the band 3 times now. He pays tribute to their excellent guitarist, appreciating that he is what stands out from the crowd and makes Blackmore's Blood stand out from other Ritchie tribute bands, but that's not self depreciating..? In fact, he's quite witty with his one liners! So anyway, why don't you go and see them, and then pass a fair judgement? You might just have your eyes opened, just like I have.
Or maybe eating humble pie just isn't to your taste....
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this is rainbow rising under another name


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