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So if frustrated momentarily, does he say why de didn’t fight harder to stay in the band? Sounds like the others had lost their hunger, Moody has admitted to partying too much. I imagine around this time DC also started thinking in terms of a more image friendly WS.
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So if frustrated momentarily, does he say why de didn’t fight harder to stay in the band? Sounds like the others had lost their hunger, Moody has admitted to partying too much. I imagine around this time DC also started thinking in terms of a more image friendly WS.



I don't think he had any idea of a more image friendly (commercial) WS at the time. Otherwise, he wouldn't had call Mel and especially Collin to join the band. In 1982/83 he had even more moustash having, beer drinking and pub going band than before. Probably that's why he was frustrated even more later in late 1983 after recording Slide it in. And than he saw Sykes...
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In the book, it doesn't sound like Bernie had the opportunity to fight to stay in the band. Colletta summoned them all to a meeting and told Bernie, Ian and Neil they were out. DC was not at that meeting. All very confusing given that DC was trying to get shot of Colletta. By the end of the same meeting telling him he was out, Bernie says Colletta had signed him up on a solo deal!
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So if frustrated momentarily, does he say why de didn’t fight harder to stay in the band? Sounds like the others had lost their hunger, Moody has admitted to partying too much. I imagine around this time DC also started thinking in terms of a more image friendly WS.



I don't think he had any idea of a more image friendly (commercial) WS at the time. Otherwise, he wouldn't had call Mel and especially Collin to join the band. In 1982/83 he had even more moustash having, beer drinking and pub going band than before. Probably that's why he was frustrated even more later in late 1983 after recording Slide it in. And than he saw Sykes...




Yes, you're quite right on that
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In the book, it doesn't sound like Bernie had the opportunity to fight to stay in the band. Colletta summoned them all to a meeting and told Bernie, Ian and Neil they were out. DC was not at that meeting. All very confusing given that DC was trying to get shot of Colletta. By the end of the same meeting telling him he was out, Bernie says Colletta had signed him up on a solo deal!



yes, recall this in the Fantastic Voyage book, DC was meant to confront Colletta, presumably with the band, but as you say didn't attend. so presumably he told JC who to fire? I don't get how Ian, Neil and Bernie were the ones fired, Moody was apparently totally disinterested at the time. Lord always on the fringes as well, why keep those two when firing Bernie, the main creative force arguably.
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Yes- it's all very confusing and the only man who will know precisely why certain people were given the bullet and not others is DC. Bernie's account suggests Micky had already left by the time the rest were summonsed to the meeting with John Colletta so in effect that would mean the only member not fired at the meeting would be Jon Lord!
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I found these David's words in ,,The early years 1978-1984'' booklet: ,,...So after my daugter complete recovery, I called my laywers and then the [sign in to see URL] but Mickey turned up to the [sign in to see URL] said he knew what is going to go down and elected to go to a darts match at his local pub [sign in to see URL] Lord fought for the band more than [sign in to see URL] endeared himself to me even more with the epth and passion of his conviction''. Then he speaks of Ian Paice very fondly and regreting of the distance Ian develloped etc.
I think he didn' fire anyone, formaly speakng. There was some time when the band didn't existe till he formed a new line-up:
 
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I come away feeling that Jessica's illness affected DC pretty deeply and maybe the casual laddishness of the band wasn't as welcomed as it was before. Add into that the debt that DC assumed from Colletta (who never seemed to have any faith in Coverdale anyway, if you listen to DC) and you've got the ingredients for a breakup.

Jon Lord always spoke as if he did Whitesnake as a favor to DC and for the paycheck (same with IP) but he stayed with it for 6 years. You don't do that if you're just in it for a larf.

I don't think the "image" thing began until Kalodner got involved in 1984.
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I am really enjoying Bernie's book (I'm about half way through). It's well written and has some great anecdotes.

It does sound a bit like Bernie wrote his own resignation with his comments to DC at Britannia Row. I would have thought that DC would have recognised the value that Bernie added to Whitesnake though and retained or re-hired him. Such a shame that the line-up ended the way it did. I remember reading in Sounds music paper that Bernie had gone and thinking that it was the end of the band.


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that's interesting. I heard from a mate that Lord was on £200 a week w WS, when Ritchie heard he joked he'd paid a certain bass player more in Rainbow, not Roger!

Lord though, presumably unsackable, but also with hindsight hanging on for the DP Reunion.

I understand the Kalodner influence came in when Moody was still in the band, ie to late 1983.
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