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read it again ptr

interviewer - Is it true that the Purple manager asked you, not to show up there?

Ritchie -Yes, that's right, I can proof it, I have it in black and white.

seems pretty conclusive to me?




The main point is this sentence where Ritchie explained what exactly DP management told him: "The Deep Purple management didn't want me to play with the band." That´s the main point of his answer! Even RRHOF (as unbiased ones) said, that DP´s "no" was JUST AND ONLY about performance with band. Maybe it´s as some of you suggested that Ritchie said "hmm.... they dont want to play with me, so it´s pointless to go there just to receive the award and giving some silly speech" - but then it´s RITCHIE´s OWN decision!




Read it again ptr interviewer asks if dp management asked Ritchie not to turn up to which Ritchie replies YES he has proof in black and white !!!! I know English is not your native language but that's pretty clear is it not ???



Yes, and then he explains what exactly DP management wrote him - no to performance with band! That "No" to performance with the band is that black&white proof! emoticon That´s what he presents as "dp management asked not to turn up"....




So you've actually read the communication sent to Ritchie then??? Wouldn't surprise me actually if it was you that sent it .Btw why would Ritchie try to misrepresent things? what does he possibly have to gain ?
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read it again ptr

interviewer - Is it true that the Purple manager asked you, not to show up there?

Ritchie -Yes, that's right, I can proof it, I have it in black and white.

seems pretty conclusive to me?




The main point is this sentence where Ritchie explained what exactly DP management told him: "The Deep Purple management didn't want me to play with the band." That´s the main point of his answer! Even RRHOF (as unbiased ones) said, that DP´s "no" was JUST AND ONLY about performance with band. Maybe it´s as some of you suggested that Ritchie said "hmm.... they dont want to play with me, so it´s pointless to go there just to receive the award and giving some silly speech" - but then it´s RITCHIE´s OWN decision!




Read it again ptr interviewer asks if dp management asked Ritchie not to turn up to which Ritchie replies YES he has proof in black and white !!!! I know English is not your native language but that's pretty clear is it not ???



Yes, and then he explains what exactly DP management wrote him - no to performance with band! That "No" to performance with the band is that black&white proof! emoticon That´s what he presents as "dp management asked not to turn up"....




So you've actually read the communication sent to Ritchie then??? Wouldn't surprise me actually if it was you that sent it .Btw why would Ritchie try to misrepresent things? what does he possibly have to gain ?



Once again.... there are more than ONE source confirming that Ritchie misinterpreted things. RRHOF officials confirmed that Deep Purple management said "no" to Ritchie ONLY in terms of performance with band and that NOONE can ban inducted member from attending the ceremony. Deep Purple released their statement about it too. NOW - it´s Ritchie himself who is saying that "no" was meant in terms of performance with band! 3 sources finally saying the same thing. Case closed.
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Once again.... there are more than ONE source confirming that Ritchie misinterpreted things. RRHOF officials confirmed that Deep Purple management said "no" to Ritchie ONLY in terms of performance with band and that NOONE can ban inducted member from attending the ceremony. Deep Purple released their statement about it too. NOW - it´s Ritchie himself who is saying that "no" was meant in terms of performance with band! 3 sources finally saying the same thing. Case closed.




bullshit man thats YOUR version of events

1. YOU me or anyone else including the RnR HOF doesn't know what communication was sent to Ritchie by the DP management.We only know the DP public statement which could be utter nonsense.

2. The HOF only know what DP said to them!!! NOT what they said to Blackers.

3. interviewer - Is it true that the Purple manager asked you, not to show up there?

Ritchie -Yes, that's right, I can prove it, I have it in black and white.

why would Ritchie say this? and not say no they didnt ask me not to go they just said they didn't want to perform with me??What does he have to gain??

4.3 sources saying the same thing?really ?? thats simply not the the case man.

5. Whilst its true DP couldn't stop Blackers turning up if he wanted to, its also wholly possible that they asked him not to turn up.

6. You also can't deny the fact that DP made a quick u turn and released a statement saying that Blackers DC and Glenn were all welcome to join them on stage only to disallow it on the night so yet more lies and bullshit from the DP camp.

the fact is NONE of the parties come out of this with much credit, its all been a complete and utter sad shambles by pensionable old guys who really should know better and who have missed a chance to right some wrongs, when in all truth all of them are much closer to the grave than the cradle.
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Once again.... there are more than ONE source confirming that Ritchie misinterpreted things. RRHOF officials confirmed that Deep Purple management said "no" to Ritchie ONLY in terms of performance with band and that NOONE can ban inducted member from attending the ceremony. Deep Purple released their statement about it too. NOW - it´s Ritchie himself who is saying that "no" was meant in terms of performance with band! 3 sources finally saying the same thing. Case closed.




bullshit man thats YOUR version of events

1. YOU me or anyone else including the RnR HOF doesn't know what communication was sent to Ritchie by the DP management.We only know the DP public statement which could be utter nonsense.

2. The HOF only know what DP said to them!!! NOT what they said to Blackers.

3. interviewer - Is it true that the Purple manager asked you, not to show up there?

Ritchie -Yes, that's right, I can prove it, I have it in black and white.

why would Ritchie say this? and not say no they didnt ask me not to go they just said they didn't want to perform with me??What does he have to gain??

4.3 sources saying the same thing?really ?? thats simply not the the case man.

5. Whilst its true DP couldn't stop Blackers turning up if he wanted to, its also wholly possible that they asked him not to turn up.

6. You also can't deny the fact that DP made a quick u turn and released a statement saying that Blackers DC and Glenn were all welcome to join them on stage only to disallow it on the night so yet more lies and bullshit from the DP camp.

the fact is NONE of the parties come out of this with much credit, its all been a complete and utter sad shambles by pensionable old guys who really should know better and who have missed a chance to right some wrongs, when in all truth all of them are much closer to the grave than the cradle.



You are absolutely wrong here.

It all started with THIS Ritchie´s statement:
"Ritchie was honored by the offer of induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was discussing the possibility of attending, until (!!!) we received correspondence from the President of the Rock Hall of Fame (!!!), who said that Bruce Payne, management for the current Deep Purple Touring Band, had said "No"..........!!!!!" (!!!)
Therefore Ritchie will not be attending the ceremony. He sincerely thanks all the fans that voted for him for their support."

So Ritchie´s camp got a correspondence from RRHOF officials which said "no" forwarded from DP management - and RRHOF officials confirmed that THIS correspondence was PURELY about performance of Ritchie with the band!

NOW - Ritchie himself admitted "Deep Purple management didn't want me to play with the band". Why Ritchie didnt say "Deep Purple management didnt want me to appear there at all" but "didnt want me to play with the band"??? Because it´s simply explanation (exact description) of what Ritchie meant that he has in black and white and what he can prove. That´s how I understand it. "yes I have a proof they didnt want me there - I have a message where manager says he dont want me to play with the band". That´s it.

Motive? It´s very simple - it´s Ritchie. It was another from his manipulative games, it was his trap.... it´s his hobby. + He got media attention and attention of fans (both highly recommended before his Rainbow gigs) because he was poor victim of evil DP management - people tends to support those who are harmed - no matter whether it´s true or not. IMO he NEVER really considered to appear there. It´s simply fun for him.... but in this case, he also damaged current band by this manipulation.
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You are absolutely wrong here.

It all started with THIS Ritchie´s statement:
"Ritchie was honored by the offer of induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was discussing the possibility of attending, until (!!!) we received correspondence from the President of the Rock Hall of Fame (!!!), who said that Bruce Payne, management for the current Deep Purple Touring Band, had said "No"..........!!!!!" (!!!)
Therefore Ritchie will not be attending the ceremony. He sincerely thanks all the fans that voted for him for their support."

So Ritchie´s camp got a correspondence from RRHOF officials which said "no" forwarded from DP management - and RRHOF officials confirmed that THIS correspondence was PURELY about performance of Ritchie with the band!

NOW - Ritchie himself admitted "Deep Purple management didn't want me to play with the band". Why Ritchie didnt say "Deep Purple management didnt want me to appear there at all" but "didnt want me to play with the band"??? Because it´s simply explanation (exact description) of what Ritchie meant that he has in black and white and what he can prove. That´s how I understand it. "yes I have a proof they didnt want me there - I have a message where manager says he dont want me to play with the band". That´s it.

Motive? It´s very simple - it´s Ritchie. It was another from his manipulative games, it was his trap.... it´s his hobby. + He got media attention and attention of fans (both highly recommended before his Rainbow gigs) because he was poor victim of evil DP management - people tends to support those who are harmed - no matter whether it´s true or not. IMO he NEVER really considered to appear there. It´s simply fun for him.... but in this case, he also damaged current band by this manipulation.




Its been my understanding through reading various reports that there was direct contact between Blackers management and DPs management?? If there wasn't then thats even bloody worse !!! If they couldn't even bring themselves to communicate directly with Blackmore to discuss plans for the HOF, but instead took the cowards way out by communicating via the HOF!! then that IMHO shows the Current DP in an even more despicable light.It portrays them as a bunch of ungrateful cowardly bitter old men .

BTW Blackmore does NOT need to play the victim to generate publicity for his rock project !! Any such suggestion is stupidity.The fact that the man who basically invented a genre is going to play rock for the first time in 20 years was more than enough to generate huge interest.
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You are absolutely wrong here.

It all started with THIS Ritchie´s statement:
"Ritchie was honored by the offer of induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was discussing the possibility of attending, until (!!!) we received correspondence from the President of the Rock Hall of Fame (!!!), who said that Bruce Payne, management for the current Deep Purple Touring Band, had said "No"..........!!!!!" (!!!)
Therefore Ritchie will not be attending the ceremony. He sincerely thanks all the fans that voted for him for their support."

So Ritchie´s camp got a correspondence from RRHOF officials which said "no" forwarded from DP management - and RRHOF officials confirmed that THIS correspondence was PURELY about performance of Ritchie with the band!

NOW - Ritchie himself admitted "Deep Purple management didn't want me to play with the band". Why Ritchie didnt say "Deep Purple management didnt want me to appear there at all" but "didnt want me to play with the band"??? Because it´s simply explanation (exact description) of what Ritchie meant that he has in black and white and what he can prove. That´s how I understand it. "yes I have a proof they didnt want me there - I have a message where manager says he dont want me to play with the band". That´s it.

Motive? It´s very simple - it´s Ritchie. It was another from his manipulative games, it was his trap.... it´s his hobby. + He got media attention and attention of fans (both highly recommended before his Rainbow gigs) because he was poor victim of evil DP management - people tends to support those who are harmed - no matter whether it´s true or not. IMO he NEVER really considered to appear there. It´s simply fun for him.... but in this case, he also damaged current band by this manipulation.




Its been my understanding through reading various reports that there was direct contact between Blackers management and DPs management?? If there wasn't then thats even bloody worse !!! If they couldn't even bring themselves to communicate directly with Blackmore to discuss plans for the HOF, but instead took the cowards way out by communicating via the HOF!! then that IMHO shows the Current DP in an even more despicable light.It portrays them as a bunch of ungrateful cowardly bitter old men .

BTW Blackmore does NOT need to play the victim to generate publicity for his rock project !! Any such suggestion is stupidity.The fact that the man who basically invented a genre is going to play rock for the first time in 20 years was more than enough to generate huge interest.



Why should THEY (Deep Purple) communicate directly with Blackmore?? Why didn't he contact the band directly with his wish to play with the band, a band he's no longer a member of??? Blackmores manager should've contacted Payne, not the other way around.

As for the last part of your post.... Only one show of three are sold out. That's how interested the world is when Blackmore finally comes back to rock after 20 years dressing up and living in a fantasy.
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You are absolutely wrong here.

It all started with THIS Ritchie´s statement:
"Ritchie was honored by the offer of induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was discussing the possibility of attending, until (!!!) we received correspondence from the President of the Rock Hall of Fame (!!!), who said that Bruce Payne, management for the current Deep Purple Touring Band, had said "No"..........!!!!!" (!!!)
Therefore Ritchie will not be attending the ceremony. He sincerely thanks all the fans that voted for him for their support."

So Ritchie´s camp got a correspondence from RRHOF officials which said "no" forwarded from DP management - and RRHOF officials confirmed that THIS correspondence was PURELY about performance of Ritchie with the band!

NOW - Ritchie himself admitted "Deep Purple management didn't want me to play with the band". Why Ritchie didnt say "Deep Purple management didnt want me to appear there at all" but "didnt want me to play with the band"??? Because it´s simply explanation (exact description) of what Ritchie meant that he has in black and white and what he can prove. That´s how I understand it. "yes I have a proof they didnt want me there - I have a message where manager says he dont want me to play with the band". That´s it.

Motive? It´s very simple - it´s Ritchie. It was another from his manipulative games, it was his trap.... it´s his hobby. + He got media attention and attention of fans (both highly recommended before his Rainbow gigs) because he was poor victim of evil DP management - people tends to support those who are harmed - no matter whether it´s true or not. IMO he NEVER really considered to appear there. It´s simply fun for him.... but in this case, he also damaged current band by this manipulation.




Its been my understanding through reading various reports that there was direct contact between Blackers management and DPs management?? If there wasn't then thats even bloody worse !!! If they couldn't even bring themselves to communicate directly with Blackmore to discuss plans for the HOF, but instead took the cowards way out by communicating via the HOF!! then that IMHO shows the Current DP in an even more despicable light.It portrays them as a bunch of ungrateful cowardly bitter old men .

BTW Blackmore does NOT need to play the victim to generate publicity for his rock project !! Any such suggestion is stupidity.The fact that the man who basically invented a genre is going to play rock for the first time in 20 years was more than enough to generate huge interest.



No, the point actually is that it´s RRHOF who usually suggests or asks for these "reunion-like" performances - so the first intention regarding this came from RRHOF - Deep Purple management obviously denied such sort of "reunion" performance. RRHOF tried to arrange this in case of DP, in case of Kiss, in case of many other bands... and Deep Purple simply said "no, we dont wanna do that"... There was no reason why to be in contact with Ritchie. The answer was obvious. Then this useless hysteria caused by misleading statement from Ritchie´s camp got DP into very difficult position. IMO you perfectly fell into Ritchie´s trap. emoticon Ritchie´s performance with DP was NEVER a real scenario and you still act like it was some sort of missed opportunity - it wasnt. Deep Purple just didnt want to play with Ritchie and he himself actually never had a plan to do that - nothing else happened.
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 after 20 years dressing up and living in a fantasy.



Hey, thats harsh and uncalled for! emoticon What have YOU done in the last 20 years emoticon
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I mean, apart from discussing the respective merits of MTC and RBTC...sorry, no intention to dig out old ghosts, but the opportunity was offered on a golden plate:-)
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Why should THEY (Deep Purple) communicate directly with Blackmore?? Why didn't he contact the band directly with his wish to play with the band, a band he's no longer a member of??? Blackmores manager should've contacted Payne, not the other way around.

As for the last part of your post.... Only one show of three are sold out. That's how interested the world is when Blackmore finally comes back to rock after 20 years dressing up and living in a fantasy.



why should they contact Blackmore?

1.Maybe because they were being honoured for the period in the band when DP really mattered which was when Ritchie was the main creative and driving force

2.Because it was probably the last chance given their age to actually put the animosity behind them and celebrate the history they made together.

3.And possibly most importantly many many long time DP fans would have wanted it.

As for What Ritchies been doing the last 20 years ?then he has released 10 studio albums and several live DVDs with BN.In the same 20 years DP have released 5 albums and several DVDs too ,but in the main have toured living off the music they made with Blackmore.


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