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Concerning Ritchie saying Jon didn't write, after he heard "Pictures Within", RB stated he almost called Jon up and apologized for saying that. By the way, in the "Pictured Within" book, Jon gives a thanks to RB.
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Without the basic ideas of Ritchie Blackmore, the songs wouldn't have been possible. The basic music is the most important thing about any song. And Ritchie wrote a lot more than the basic ideas. He mostly came up with whole arrangements and also gave many of singers hints how to sing and even about what to sing. Of course that doesn't mean that that was always the case with Ian Gillan.

I think the fact that the other guys except Jon Lord don't want to admit that fact is just a big ego thing. Jon Lord is at least honest.

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There is further proof of his contributions if you look at what the Purple camp have done outside of DP: the songwriting for Gillan's bands was EXTREMELY different than MkII - Ian was there in both situations, Ritchie not. Whitesnake is also very different to Burn/[sign in to see URL] was there, Ian Paice and Jon Lord where there, yet it sounded nothing like MkIII.
On the other hand, you can find similarities in all of Ritchie's bands in terms of song structure, genre, keys, arrangements - not that they are all the same, but you can hear commonalities.
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There is further proof of his contributions if you look at what the Purple camp have done outside of DP: the songwriting for Gillan's bands was EXTREMELY different than MkII - Ian was there in both situations, Ritchie not. Whitesnake is also very different to Burn/[sign in to see URL] was there, Ian Paice and Jon Lord where there, yet it sounded nothing like MkIII.
On the other hand, you can find similarities in all of Ritchie's bands in terms of song structure, genre, keys, arrangements - not that they are all the same, but you can hear commonalities.



This is strange.... because actually - I see some of best Gillan (not IGB of course!) stuff very close to Purple Mk2 style, compare to that (for example) Long Live Rock´n´Roll / Stargazer / Catch The Rainbow have nothing to do with Purple sound at all for me. emoticon Maybe that key factor is what we see as "key part" of Purple sound.
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So I finally understand it.
Ritchie only came up with a little riff, but thanks to Gillan's vocal lines and lyrics DP became the legends they are.
Time for a drink.



I didnt say that! I´m just saying that vocal line and lyrics have the same importance for a song as guitar riff.
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So I finally understand it.
Ritchie only came up with a little riff, but thanks to Gillan's vocal lines and lyrics DP became the legends they are.
Time for a drink.



I didnt say that! I´m just saying that vocal line and lyrics have the same importance for a song as guitar riff.



No you didn't, you said:

"It´s a role of guitar player to bring the first idea, and riff (as I told, drummer probably wont come up with riff emoticon ) then the whole band build something around it, singer brings vocal line and lyrics - which is THAT part which actually makes SONG from just musical background... Let´s say that for example Highway Star would not be Highway Star with different lyrics - because percussive sound of IG´s lyrics with vocal line is absolutely KEY factor for the song.

So you think the most important part of HS are Gillan's vocals?
Most credits for Gillan, main contributor of DP?
I tend to disagree.
And so do many others, because for them it's Blackmore.


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ptr is a hopeless case. He always finds a way to respond on anything to suit his beloved Morse or Gillan. He lives in his own world with his own facts.

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dp344 wrote:

So I finally understand it.
Ritchie only came up with a little riff, but thanks to Gillan's vocal lines and lyrics DP became the legends they are.
Time for a drink.



I didnt say that! I´m just saying that vocal line and lyrics have the same importance for a song as guitar riff.



No you didn't, you said:

"It´s a role of guitar player to bring the first idea, and riff (as I told, drummer probably wont come up with riff emoticon ) then the whole band build something around it, singer brings vocal line and lyrics - which is THAT part which actually makes SONG from just musical background... Let´s say that for example Highway Star would not be Highway Star with different lyrics - because percussive sound of IG´s lyrics with vocal line is absolutely KEY factor for the song.

So you think the most important part of HS are Gillan's vocals?
Most credits for Gillan, main contributor of DP?
I tend to disagree.
And so do many others, because for them it's Blackmore.



No - after the quote you are putting words I didnt say. It´s not contest - you always see it one member vs. other member, it´s NOT like that, it´s a TEAM work! And saying that bringing vocal line (for example Perfect Strangers one) is very important for the song itself, because actually.... with a simple guitar riff, it´s a vocal line which is the most memorable part of the song. I´m not putting down Ritchie´s work now.... I´m just saying that IG (or better to say singer one - DC/GH, JLT) is very important. I´m NOT comparing that with role of Ritchie - that´s what you repeatedly do - who is more important... It´s not like that for me! Creating a song is team work, which has 2 key moments - bringing the original idea.... and then after "backing music" is finished - it´s a vocal line which decides whether the song is going to be good / catchy etc. or not (saying that in other way - it´s a vocal which can make standout track from otherwise mediocre one /let´s say that Bible Black can be used as good example/... and it´s a vocal which can kill otherwise good song /I repeatedly called Cut Runs Deep as the biggest wasted opportunity in DP career - hypothetically being it done in 84 or 93, it would be a breakthrough track for DP, but it would need different singer/).

Also - for me, it´s always the singer who is the crucial member for my liking (or not liking) the band. Anytime when band replaces their lead singer, I´m far more cautios than in case of other members. In case of DP - I dont have issues with DC, GH (in their own stuff), Rod, but I have huge issues with JLT - why? Because of tone of his voice and because of his vocal lines, which are annoying for me (Love Conquers All and Cut Runs Deep can be used as prime examples). In case of other bands... I had absolutely no problem with Paul Rodgers with Queen, but I cant stand Adam Lambert with them (because of his style of singing). I had no problem with RJD in Black Sabbath.... but I consider Tony Martin´s work as mostly generic and boring (despite the fact that tone of their voices are similar). In case of Rainbow - I have no problems with Graham Bonnet on Down To Earth, I have no issue with Doogie White, but again - I cant stand JLT´s voice and his extremely affective (annoying, obtrusive) vocal lines. It´s purely matter of taste.

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If a team gets a prize for achieving something in the past, not the current team would show up to collect the prize.


That surely is not true. In my hometown ever december the "team of the year" gets elected. Mostly a team, ins for what it achieved in the last season, which endet in the summer. And who turns up to get the prize? The current team ...
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The summer for this prize was 40 years ago...

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