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On the JL quote I am a bit prudent - what you quoted is exact, and ) could have been way more kind, but at the same time I remember also anotherJL interview, where he said that he had ideas for PS, but once he listened to Ritchie's ones, he decided to leave them be because RB's were much stronger.
Knowing the music business, the last quote I mentioned was probably whilst they were both still in Purple, and the former that you mentioned was said as a response to a nasty sentence by Ritchie and when he had gone another route entirely. So the entire truth may lie somewhere in the middle, and circumstances make it float here or there. It is a fact, however, that there was little from Jon not just in the Purple reunion years, but also in Whitesnake.
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You were in the studio when they jammed to know how many ideas anyone from band brought to others, how many of them were used and how many of them were banned from Ritchie? emoticon As it´s said by Jon - Ritchie never listen to the ideas brought by others, then it´s NOT suprise that most of his ideas ended up on the album. It simply doesnt mean that they were "the best ones". And it´s obvious that Ritchie´s "taste" and verdict wasnt always right - when you see how many great tracks were done which he DIDNT like and didnt brought (aside from YKOM, Maybe I´m Leo or When A Blind Man Cries come to my mind as great examples) - so he was actually "forced" to do them! I´m actually asking - how many great stuff we may missed due to this?

It´s like inviting your friend to meet up regularly, he/she would deny this invitation all the time and then came up with "why we didnt meet up each other for long time? it´s your fault you didnt find time for it!"



I was watching the RB documentary the other night and I'm sure Ritchie said that he liked Maybe I'm A Leo?

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Jon said he found it difficult composing "rock" music and it was much easier for guitarists to come up with ideas.

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On fans vs general public buying albums: I think the relevance of the fanbase has increased with pre-release sales. What happens is that, if you are an established band, you put your album on pre-release for a month or so, and gradually fans order it. The purchase, however, is only completed once the release happens, so that month or two gets compressed in one week of sales reporting, and the album charts high. This, in turn, promotes it further and helps additional sales. All of this does not happen on this scale for newer acts.
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"Recently Ritchie Blackmore gave an interview to the Mojo magazine, or in fact he was asked to characterize some of his previous fellow musicians. There was written about Jon Lord that he is a very nice guy, but Ritchie can't stop wondering why hasn't he presented any ideas in the band during the last 25 years, not a single one.

Jon Lord: I'm mentally disappointed that he chose to make such a stupid remark. Extremely disappointed. I thought that he had more class than that. It's basically stupid. I mean, you got to go to listen to my contributions. Some are better than others, but from a MAN WHO WOULDN´T LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE´S IDEA´S anyway, that's a rather strange statement. I am surprised, and I am hurt, of course!"

MAN WHO WOULDN´T LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE´S IDEA´S!!!! - Genial You Keep On Moving originally brought from GH for Burn sessions proves it perfectly!

By the way, let me say this. For me... Deep Purple can work pretty well without RB.... much better than Deep Purple worked without IG/(+ RG). It´s actually comparing Shades&DP&Book&Burn&Stormbringer&S&M vs. CTTB&Purpendicular&Abandon&Bananas&Rapture&NW?!... Albums done without Ritchie are IMO overall stronger than albums done without IG. From those two collections, I prefer the 2nd one. But that´s purely matter of taste, it´s completely fine to have different opinion.




Did you listen carefully to the link litb0 provided?

mover

Who was the PRIME mover ALL these years?

Who came up with the kernel, idea, little spark, riff everyone said that's good lets work on it?

And who said that?
The man that was disappointed and sad, but had enough class, years later, to tell how things went.

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You were in the studio when they jammed to know how many ideas anyone from band brought to others, how many of them were used and how many of them were banned from Ritchie? emoticon As it´s said by Jon - Ritchie never listen to the ideas brought by others, then it´s NOT suprise that most of his ideas ended up on the album. It simply doesnt mean that they were "the best ones". And it´s obvious that Ritchie´s "taste" and verdict wasnt always right - when you see how many great tracks were done which he DIDNT like and didnt brought (aside from YKOM, Maybe I´m Leo or When A Blind Man Cries come to my mind as great examples) - so he was actually "forced" to do them! I´m actually asking - how many great stuff we may missed due to this?

It´s like inviting your friend to meet up regularly, he/she would deny this invitation all the time and then came up with "why we didnt meet up each other for long time? it´s your fault you didnt find time for it!"



Yeah i was in the studio with the guys at the recording of IR,Fireball,MH and WDWTWA.I remember WDWTWA better as i was 9 years old by then ,being only 6 i don't remember IR very well. emoticon
cmon man be serious FFS!! NONE of us on this forum were in the studio with the band, but we have ALL followed DP for many years and read many articles and saw many interviews ,the consensus is that Ritchie Blackmore was very much the driving and creative force behind the bands successful years taken from comments made by his bandmates who WERE in the [sign in to see URL] to me the only people denying this are YOU and your hero [sign in to see URL] on rewriting history though mate you may get some people to believe you emoticon emoticon emoticon
BTW if Ritchie was indeed forced to play WABMC what a wonderful job he did with [sign in to see URL] version is by far better than any MK Morse version where the too many notes widdling comes in and ruins the mood of the song .
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I would have huge issues with only TWO scenarios - which didnt happen.... all others (including the real one) are actually OK for me. Those two absolutely wrong unacceptable hypothetical scenarios would be:
1)- performance of David/Glenn/Ritchie + some drummer (Aldridge?) + some keyboard player.... introduced or presented as "Deep Purple performance"... or
2)- some sort of fake Mk2/3 reunion (fake because Jon is sadly dead) which would ignore the reality that Steve Morse is current DP guitar player and noone else! As I said numerous times I personally would have absolutely NO problem with full current band (Airey, Gillan, Glover, Morse, Paice) plus Ritchie + Glenn + David. But I would have HUGE problem with some sort of IG/RG/IP/Ritchie/Glenn/David + Don as guest and ignoring Steve Morse.
3) That´s exactly what I would call as absolute lack of respect to him, and that´s probably exactly what IG meant as act of respect towards Steve and Don.
 



1) could have been announced as a hommage to Deep Purple mark III

2) fake Mk2/3?? What did we get? A fake Mk2. Because they were inducted. Not the current Deep Purple, because than SM and DA also would have been inducted.

If a team gets a prize for achieving something in the past, not the current team would show up to collect the prize.

3) If he wanted to make an "act of respect towards Steve and Don" he should have said it during his speech that they should belong to the Hall of Fame. No he just mentioned them.
Where is his respect to DC and GH?

Guess it is all water under the bridge.

Happily looking forward to the Rainbow concerts and GH at the end of the year.


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"Recently Ritchie Blackmore gave an interview to the Mojo magazine, or in fact he was asked to characterize some of his previous fellow musicians. There was written about Jon Lord that he is a very nice guy, but Ritchie can't stop wondering why hasn't he presented any ideas in the band during the last 25 years, not a single one.

Jon Lord: I'm mentally disappointed that he chose to make such a stupid remark. Extremely disappointed. I thought that he had more class than that. It's basically stupid. I mean, you got to go to listen to my contributions. Some are better than others, but from a MAN WHO WOULDN´T LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE´S IDEA´S anyway, that's a rather strange statement. I am surprised, and I am hurt, of course!"

MAN WHO WOULDN´T LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE´S IDEA´S!!!! - Genial You Keep On Moving originally brought from GH for Burn sessions proves it perfectly!

By the way, let me say this. For me... Deep Purple can work pretty well without RB.... much better than Deep Purple worked without IG/(+ RG). It´s actually comparing Shades&DP&Book&Burn&Stormbringer&S&M vs. CTTB&Purpendicular&Abandon&Bananas&Rapture&NW?!... Albums done without Ritchie are IMO overall stronger than albums done without IG. From those two collections, I prefer the 2nd one. But that´s purely matter of taste, it´s completely fine to have different opinion.




Did you listen carefully to the link litb0 provided?

mover

Who was the PRIME mover ALL these years?

Who came up with the kernel, idea, little spark, riff everyone said that's good lets work on it?

And who said that?
The man that was disappointed and sad, but had enough class, years later, to tell how things went.



Yes, but idea, little riff and spark doesnt create song - it´s like whole big building... you cannot overview quality of the whole house by foundation... emoticon I have never doubt that he brought the riffs and first ideas - I´m saying that it´s just first part of long process which has many very important parts. It´s a role of guitar player to bring the first idea, and riff (as I told, drummer probably wont come up with riff emoticon ) then the whole band build something around it, singer brings vocal line and lyrics - which is THAT part which actually makes SONG from just musical background... Let´s say that for example Highway Star would not be Highway Star with different lyrics - because percussive sound of IG´s lyrics with vocal line is absolutely KEY factor for the song.
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"Recently Ritchie Blackmore gave an interview to the Mojo magazine, or in fact he was asked to characterize some of his previous fellow musicians. There was written about Jon Lord that he is a very nice guy, but Ritchie can't stop wondering why hasn't he presented any ideas in the band during the last 25 years, not a single one.

Jon Lord: I'm mentally disappointed that he chose to make such a stupid remark. Extremely disappointed. I thought that he had more class than that. It's basically stupid. I mean, you got to go to listen to my contributions. Some are better than others, but from a MAN WHO WOULDN´T LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE´S IDEA´S anyway, that's a rather strange statement. I am surprised, and I am hurt, of course!"

MAN WHO WOULDN´T LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE´S IDEA´S!!!! - Genial You Keep On Moving originally brought from GH for Burn sessions proves it perfectly!

By the way, let me say this. For me... Deep Purple can work pretty well without RB.... much better than Deep Purple worked without IG/(+ RG). It´s actually comparing Shades&DP&Book&Burn&Stormbringer&S&M vs. CTTB&Purpendicular&Abandon&Bananas&Rapture&NW?!... Albums done without Ritchie are IMO overall stronger than albums done without IG. From those two collections, I prefer the 2nd one. But that´s purely matter of taste, it´s completely fine to have different opinion.




Did you listen carefully to the link litb0 provided?

mover

Who was the PRIME mover ALL these years?

Who came up with the kernel, idea, little spark, riff everyone said that's good lets work on it?

And who said that?
The man that was disappointed and sad, but had enough class, years later, to tell how things went.



Yes, but idea, little riff and spark doesnt create song - it´s like whole big building... you cannot overview quality of the whole house by foundation... emoticon I have never doubt that he brought the riffs and first ideas - I´m saying that it´s just first part of long process which has many very important parts. It´s a role of guitar player to bring the first idea, and riff (as I told, drummer probably wont come up with riff emoticon ) then the whole band build something around it, singer brings vocal line and lyrics - which is THAT part which actually makes SONG from just musical background... Let´s say that for example Highway Star would not be Highway Star with different lyrics - because percussive sound of IG´s lyrics with vocal line is absolutely KEY factor for the song.



It's the guitarists job to come up with first ideas then is it ? How do you explain Steve Harris role in Maiden or Geddy Lee's in Rush or Jack Bruce in Cream etc etc It's the guy with the creativity who comes up with the ideas and Ritchie WAS that guy in Deep Purple .Holy !@#$ man just give the guy the credit he deserves FFS!! It doesn't harm your precious touring band ,we ALL know they're living off the glory days with Blackmore.
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So I finally understand it.
Ritchie only came up with a little riff, but thanks to Gillan's vocal lines and lyrics DP became the legends they are.
Time for a drink.
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