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ptr ,Byljer and Friedhelm you guys need to accept the fact that you are fans of the postscript of the legendary hard rock band Deep Purple.MK Morse are simply a bubble in the beer of Deep Purple.Great musicians they are no doubt but their affect on the DP name is ZERO!!If the current lineup had called themselves by another name or had formed in the 70s then who knows how successful they would have been? but they are simply riding on the coat tails of the Blackmore driven band of the 70s.We ALL know that, you guys just won't admit it



You really have a serious issue with accepting that people can see things otherwise... I have explained my position many times and I´m not going to do that again.



i realise not everyone thinks like I do about DP ,you,Friedhelm and your new friend Byljer but so far thats the only people i know, and your wrong .Face reality man . emoticon



I´m facing the fact, that my favourite band with 45+ years career was able to release one of their best albums in band´s history and that they are working on another one.... emoticon I love the reality! emoticon



good for you ptr ,one of the best best albums in the bands history you reckon ?Shame hardly anybodys heard it . emoticon
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ptr ,Byljer and Friedhelm you guys need to accept the fact that you are fans of the postscript of the legendary hard rock band Deep Purple.MK Morse are simply a bubble in the beer of Deep Purple.Great musicians they are no doubt but their affect on the DP name is ZERO!!If the current lineup had called themselves by another name or had formed in the 70s then who knows how successful they would have been? but they are simply riding on the coat tails of the Blackmore driven band of the 70s.We ALL know that, you guys just won't admit it



You really have a serious issue with accepting that people can see things otherwise... I have explained my position many times and I´m not going to do that again.



i realise not everyone thinks like I do about DP ,you,Friedhelm and your new friend Byljer but so far thats the only people i know, and your wrong .Face reality man . emoticon



I´m facing the fact, that my favourite band with 45+ years career was able to release one of their best albums in band´s history and that they are working on another one.... emoticon I love the reality! emoticon



good for you ptr ,one of the best best albums in the bands history you reckon ?Shame hardly anybodys heard it . emoticon



But that´s not my fault. Those who havent heard it missed a lots of great music... their loss, not mine. emoticon
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[The point your missing is that despite the length of time SM has been in DP as JSA1 says nobody knows DP for their post Blackmore work.The Fleetwood Mac comparison is daft as FM went on to become huge AFTER PG left ,Thats most certainly not the case for DP!!BTW yes the songs all went down as group compositions but the fact is that 9 times out of 10 its was Ritchie who came up with the ideas and after all it was Ritchie who chose the direction the band were going to take.And as i said before thats coming from his bandmates not from me or any other fan.


Most run of the mill music fans , if asked about DP , can name one song .SOTW .Not Speed king , No one Came , Pictures of Home, Bloodsucker Etc.If pressed , maybe they could come up with Child in Time. Most music now , from what I can gather is sold song by song , on I Fumes or some such other distributor . So without rock radio.Real radio , it's no big surprise that the last 6 albums have not made a lot of traction .Rock bands , bands with big ass drummers and hot guitarists don't cut it in todays pop world . Alabama Shakes and Cold Play , Maroon 5 ? OMG ! Such hot R&R.But DP , the current band are still able to get out and play large venues at prices above $65 and people show in droves .They don't return simply because they see the name Deep Purple .They return because they get a great show .Maybe Ritchie should get a group of unknown players and go out as "D P Revisited " .And then we might know who really is Deep Purple .


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I would love it, if Ritchie could be bothered to do it. It's not a chance that I will go to both German gigs later in the year.
Since he could not make the time to play his old songs over the last 20 years, I wound up going to DP's gigs - excellent musicianship, great songs, etc - but hardly enough personality, charisma - at least for me.
Let's say that the current touring band are the best available option to listen to these songs, certainly not the best option there could potentially be, and I do not mean disrespect to them.
I only wanted to point this out because I frequently hear some people here say that they still attract huge numbers of people at gigs as a validation of their quality - interestingly enough, the number of people buying tickets appear to be a certification of quality whereas for the same people the number of records sold has no quality implications - and I am one of those people going to their gigs. I go, I enjoy, but if there were a Ritchie-led band, it would have precedence for me.
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I would love it, if Ritchie could be bothered to do it. It's not a chance that I will go to both German gigs later in the year.
Since he could not make the time to play his old songs over the last 20 years, I wound up going to DP's gigs - excellent musicianship, great songs, etc - but hardly enough personality, charisma - at least for me.
Let's say that the current touring band are the best available option to listen to these songs, certainly not the best option there could potentially be, and I do not mean disrespect to them.
I only wanted to point this out because I frequently hear some people here say that they still attract huge numbers of people at gigs as a validation of their quality - interestingly enough, the number of people buying tickets appear to be a certification of quality whereas for the same people the number of records sold has no quality implications - and I am one of those people going to their gigs. I go, I enjoy, but if there were a Ritchie-led band, it would have precedence for me.




thats a very good post with some very valid points .i too used to go to see MK Morse and enjoyed them in the early years too, but grew bored with them,something i could never say about DP in the past.Last DP gig I attended was the orchestra tour end of 2011 ,which was actually better than the last few dull DP shows i had attended,the orchestra seemed to inspire the band a bit, but not good enough to make me want to go back again.
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ptr ,Byljer and Friedhelm you guys need to accept the fact that you are fans of the postscript of the legendary hard rock band Deep Purple.MK Morse are simply a bubble in the beer of Deep Purple.Great musicians they are no doubt but their affect on the DP name is ZERO!!If the current lineup had called themselves by another name or had formed in the 70s then who knows how successful they would have been? but they are simply riding on the coat tails of the Blackmore driven band of the 70s.We ALL know that, you guys just won't admit it



Don't tell me what incarnation of the band I'm a fan of! I've been a diehard Blackmore- and Purplefan since 1981, but unlike some I don't feel the need to have my head planted up Blackmores arse just because he used to be great. By the way, Blackmore didn't come up with all the songs. He came up with most of the basic riffs, the rest was a bandproduct. Like so many musicians Blackmore feeds of others, and when he do he makes great music. Back in 1997 Blackmore went solo, and in my opinion he hasn't done anything great after that. Blackmores Night is a tragedy! After Blackmore left Purple have released two great records, my opinion of course, and that is two more than Blackmore. I'm talking about Purpendicular and Now What by the way.
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The current band is the band right now .Has been for years .Ritchie , from what I know about him , wouldn't set foot on stage with the other guys short of dragging him on with a truck and chain. The show is not just about DP .What are they going to play anyway ? Smoke ? And that's it ? Probably. BFD .So go on and on about no Ritchie , no Purple. They can't induct Airey or Morse .But the band doesn't want to leave them out completely. They've been touring as equal members for more years than Ritchie played in the band . I go back far enough to remember people huffing and puffing about Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac ."IT'S THE END OF THE BAND " Well about 6 members later,there was still a Fleetwood Mac. BTW .If you go back and look at the songwriting credits for all those great classic DP songs before perfect strangers . It says , " Paice , Lord , Glover , Blackmore, Gillan " So they aren't Ritchie's exclusive property . But there is no use trying to convince the faithful .Cheers .




The point your missing is that despite the length of time SM has been in DP as JSA1 says nobody knows DP for their post Blackmore work.The Fleetwood Mac comparison is daft as FM went on to become huge AFTER PG left ,Thats most certainly not the case for DP!!BTW yes the songs all went down as group compositions but the fact is that 9 times out of 10 its was Ritchie who came up with the ideas and after all it was Ritchie who chose the direction the band were going to take.And as i said before thats coming from his bandmates not from me or any other fan.



If nobody knows DP for the post Blackmore work, how come, that Now What went number one in Germany and as I mean to remeber some other European countries? Even Rapture was int the top ten. And nobody knows the band for the post Blackmore work? Can you please eyplain taht? Did all these people buy the records and didn't listen to them? How come that some of the new songs get a cheer from the audience, when they hear the first notes? Because the people don't know these songs?
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A couple of songs from this century

Sex on Fire - Kings of Leon
Arriving Somewhere But Not Here - Porcupine Tree
Clocks - Coldplay
Run - Snow Patrol
Uprising - Muse
The pretender - Foo Fighters
Papillon - Editors
No one knows - Queens of the Stone Age
Dust Bowl - Joe Bonamassa
Boulevard Of Broken Dreams - Green Day
By The Sword - Slash
Just Breathe - Pearl Jam
The Day That Never Comes - Metallica
California - Lenny Kravitz

and many many more

And even from bands that were around in the 70s like:

Magnificent - U2
Loner - Black Sabbath

But unfortunately no MkMorse



I must admit: I don't know even one of these songs. Must have missed a lot of good tunes ...
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The current band is the band right now .Has been for years .Ritchie , from what I know about him , wouldn't set foot on stage with the other guys short of dragging him on with a truck and chain. The show is not just about DP .What are they going to play anyway ? Smoke ? And that's it ? Probably. BFD .So go on and on about no Ritchie , no Purple. They can't induct Airey or Morse .But the band doesn't want to leave them out completely. They've been touring as equal members for more years than Ritchie played in the band . I go back far enough to remember people huffing and puffing about Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac ."IT'S THE END OF THE BAND " Well about 6 members later,there was still a Fleetwood Mac. BTW .If you go back and look at the songwriting credits for all those great classic DP songs before perfect strangers . It says , " Paice , Lord , Glover , Blackmore, Gillan " So they aren't Ritchie's exclusive property . But there is no use trying to convince the faithful .Cheers .




The point your missing is that despite the length of time SM has been in DP as JSA1 says nobody knows DP for their post Blackmore work.The Fleetwood Mac comparison is daft as FM went on to become huge AFTER PG left ,Thats most certainly not the case for DP!!BTW yes the songs all went down as group compositions but the fact is that 9 times out of 10 its was Ritchie who came up with the ideas and after all it was Ritchie who chose the direction the band were going to take.And as i said before thats coming from his bandmates not from me or any other fan.



If nobody knows DP for the post Blackmore work, how come, that Now What went number one in Germany and as I mean to remeber some other European countries? Even Rapture was int the top ten. And nobody knows the band for the post Blackmore work? Can you please eyplain taht? Did all these people buy the records and didn't listen to them? How come that some of the new songs get a cheer from the audience, when they hear the first notes? Because the people don't know these songs?



I remember that Ted and SIFLS were both recieved as classics when I saw them performed...

BTW I remember one big Purple fan (between 40 - 50 years) from our country who travels around the various countries (he saw much more DP gigs than me) and he honestly admitted, that he had huge respect for us ("young ones") because we were able to sing with IG even new stuff (not only classics) - like Vincent Price, All The Time In The World, Above & Beyond when we saw DP during summer leg of 2013 tour. He closed it with great sentence which made me "proud": "you are proof that what this band does still has a meaning!" - and I fully agree with that, main goal of this band are not charts.... but being able to generate new young fans! Music connects people through generations. I dont remember the particular gig (it´s going to be few years back, 2009 or 2010), but I was stunned when I saw dad with two boys (about 10 years old) who were enormous DP fans (what a great parenting!) - me and my great DP friend were standing in front of them and we decided to let them in front of us (because we both are about 190cm and they would not see anything) - and we "examined" them about Deep Purple facts (from basic ones to very difficult ones!) - 100% perfect knowledge.... we were stunned, because they were even able to correct us! I remember that they suprised me by their question whether I remember the city and venue of Mk2b last gig from 88 (this was their reply to our questions about Liverpool 76 as last 70s Purple gig or Helsinki as last Ritchie´s show).... emoticon I had no idea, they knew precisely! And when they started to discuss whether Roger is going to play Smoke with Rickenbacker or "only Vigier", and why Steve has turned his amplifiers compared to his standard setting (we didnt notice that before) - we were lost for words.... Would love to meet them again, after those years! They were 10 or 12 at max!

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The current band is the band right now .Has been for years .Ritchie , from what I know about him , wouldn't set foot on stage with the other guys short of dragging him on with a truck and chain. The show is not just about DP .What are they going to play anyway ? Smoke ? And that's it ? Probably. BFD .So go on and on about no Ritchie , no Purple. They can't induct Airey or Morse .But the band doesn't want to leave them out completely. They've been touring as equal members for more years than Ritchie played in the band . I go back far enough to remember people huffing and puffing about Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac ."IT'S THE END OF THE BAND " Well about 6 members later,there was still a Fleetwood Mac. BTW .If you go back and look at the songwriting credits for all those great classic DP songs before perfect strangers . It says , " Paice , Lord , Glover , Blackmore, Gillan " So they aren't Ritchie's exclusive property . But there is no use trying to convince the faithful .Cheers .




The point your missing is that despite the length of time SM has been in DP as JSA1 says nobody knows DP for their post Blackmore work.The Fleetwood Mac comparison is daft as FM went on to become huge AFTER PG left ,Thats most certainly not the case for DP!!BTW yes the songs all went down as group compositions but the fact is that 9 times out of 10 its was Ritchie who came up with the ideas and after all it was Ritchie who chose the direction the band were going to take.And as i said before thats coming from his bandmates not from me or any other fan.



If nobody knows DP for the post Blackmore work, how come, that Now What went number one in Germany and as I mean to remeber some other European countries? Even Rapture was int the top ten. And nobody knows the band for the post Blackmore work? Can you please eyplain taht? Did all these people buy the records and didn't listen to them? How come that some of the new songs get a cheer from the audience, when they hear the first notes? Because the people don't know these songs?



I remember that Ted and SIFLS were both recieved as classics when I saw them performed...

BTW I remember one big Purple fan (between 40 - 50 years) from our country who travels around the various countries (he saw much more DP gigs than me) and he honestly admitted, that he had huge respect for us ("young ones") because we were able to sing with IG even new stuff (not only classics) - like Vincent Price, All The Time In The World, Above & Beyond when we saw DP during summer leg of 2013 tour. He closed it with great sentence which made me "proud": "you are proof that what this band does still has a meaning!" - and I fully agree with that, main goal of this band are not charts.... but being able to generate new young fans! Music connects people through generations. I dont remember the particular gig (it´s going to be few years back, 2009 or 2010), but I was stunned when I saw dad with two boys (about 10 years old) who were enormous DP fans (what a great parenting!) - me and my great DP friend were standing in front of them and we decided to let them in front of us (because we both are about 190cm and they would not see anything) - and we "examined" them about Deep Purple facts (from basic ones to very difficult ones!) - 100% perfect knowledge.... we were stunned, because they were even able to correct us! I remember that they suprised me by their question whether I remember the city and venue of Mk2b last gig from 88.... emoticon I had no idea, they knew precisely! And when they started to discuss whether Roger is going to play Smoke with Rickenbacker or "only Vigier", and why Steve has turned his amplifiers compared to his standard setting (we didnt notice that before) - we were lost for words.... Would love to meet them again, after those years! They were 10 or 12 at max!



hmmm? that doesnt seem a bit freaky or nerdy to you ptr??

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