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JLT has a point, but the article doesen't tell the whole truth.

The current band is pissed because Don Airey and Steve Morse isn't inducted, and also why Nick Simper isn't inducted. They, Paice, Glover and Gillan, feel it's important to stand by their current band, and to make it possible for them to show up to accept the award they said that the current line up should be the one doing the performing. After all the bickering in the press and "all over the web", and with the benefit of hindsight, they said that all member, past and present, are welcome to jam on the encore. Blackmore has stated that he was banned from the event by the band/ management, but that is of course a lie. They are not in a position to ban anyone.

Could the current line up have done it any different? Yes! They could've used Don Airey as "Lord" in a MKII performance (Blackmore, Gillan, Paice, Glover and Airey), then a MKIII performance (Blackmore, Coverdale, Hughes, Paice and Airey), then all together, Steve Morse included, for fx Smoke On The Water.

MKI? Well, the Hall of Shame didn't induct Nick Simper (God knows why?????), and I don't think there is any chanse Rod Evans will show up.

That said.... I totally understand why the current band wont do it the way most fans would like them to do it. Blackmore sued them for using his face on tour T-shirts (Machine Head cover), and lately he's been in a "fight" with Paice. I don't remember what it was about (Purple name?), but it was something that made Paice say that he would never play with Blackmore again.

I see that a lot of people blame everything, not only the Hall thing, on Gillan like he is Satan or something, but that's because they haven't been in a band with Blackmore. Neither have I, but I have been in bands where some've had that "Blackmore personality". It's NOT a walk in the park, and I would never reunite with them no matter how genius or creative they used to be. People like that suck all energy out of you, and they demand to much space. They tend to think that they own you, and they don't listen to, or have any respect, for other peoples opinions.

And I am a diehard Blackmorefan!


How would they ever get Ritchie to even do a run through before the show ? They couldn't just call out a song and do justice .If Ritchie at this point is suing any part of the band , he's being a dick .He hasn't had to play with them for 20 years ,I'm sure he still get's a royalty check .Just shut the F up .Go to the induction and sit it out when they play .Why does it have to be a big deal ?
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JLT has a point, but the article doesen't tell the whole truth.

The current band is pissed because Don Airey and Steve Morse isn't inducted, and also why Nick Simper isn't inducted. They, Paice, Glover and Gillan, feel it's important to stand by their current band, and to make it possible for them to show up to accept the award they said that the current line up should be the one doing the performing. After all the bickering in the press and "all over the web", and with the benefit of hindsight, they said that all member, past and present, are welcome to jam on the encore. Blackmore has stated that he was banned from the event by the band/ management, but that is of course a lie. They are not in a position to ban anyone.

Could the current line up have done it any different? Yes! They could've used Don Airey as "Lord" in a MKII performance (Blackmore, Gillan, Paice, Glover and Airey), then a MKIII performance (Blackmore, Coverdale, Hughes, Paice and Airey), then all together, Steve Morse included, for fx Smoke On The Water.

MKI? Well, the Hall of Shame didn't induct Nick Simper (God knows why?????), and I don't think there is any chanse Rod Evans will show up.

That said.... I totally understand why the current band wont do it the way most fans would like them to do it. Blackmore sued them for using his face on tour T-shirts (Machine Head cover), and lately he's been in a "fight" with Paice. I don't remember what it was about (Purple name?), but it was something that made Paice say that he would never play with Blackmore again.

I see that a lot of people blame everything, not only the Hall thing, on Gillan like he is Satan or something, but that's because they haven't been in a band with Blackmore. Neither have I, but I have been in bands where some've had that "Blackmore personality". It's NOT a walk in the park, and I would never reunite with them no matter how genius or creative they used to be. People like that suck all energy out of you, and they demand to much space. They tend to think that they own you, and they don't listen to, or have any respect, for other peoples opinions.

And I am a diehard Blackmorefan!


How would they ever get Ritchie to even do a run through before the show ? They couldn't just call out a song and do justice .If Ritchie at this point is suing any part of the band , he's being a dick .He hasn't had to play with them for 20 years ,I'm sure he still get's a royalty check .Just shut the F up .Go to the induction and sit it out when they play .Why does it have to be a big deal ?



Please explain to me your logic where it could ever be OK for Ritchie Blackmore to sit it out and watch a substitute play HIS material ,when this is the man whose vision and creativity was indisiputably responsible for bringing DP to legendary status in the first place.The band still play at least 75% of their live set from his era.He was the creative and driving force behind this band and that is from comments made by band members like Jon Lord ,Roger Glover ,DC and Glenn Hughes not from me or other fans.Stopping Blackmore from playing at the ceremony( if he wanted to) is just BLOODY WRONG!!!!! The rock world knows this it seems you don't?The touring band playing at a ceremony where they are NOT inducted is a bloody sham!!
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I agree with Light here. The current band has basically been keeping DP in the public's eye since Ritchie left and nothing more. The fact that the three big incarnations of the band are the ones getting inducted seem to be lost on quite a few. Not one song can you mention from the current band to the general public that they might know. You can rattle off a whole bunch from MKI-III and the general public would know what they are.

Kudos to the present band for keeping the name going. They have put out some nice albums and some good tunes, but absolutely nothing that the general public who listens to classic rock could name or recognize. You can still hear the classic Purple tunes on the radio, but I can't remember the last time I heard something from this line-up over the airwaves. A couple of tunes from Purpendicular got played back in the day and that is about it. S&M got more airplay than the new stuff.

Either way, Coverdale, Hughes and Ritchie should get up and play Burn and maybe Stormbringer. They are being inducted and you can't prevent them from playing.
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The current band is the band right now .Has been for years .Ritchie , from what I know about him , wouldn't set foot on stage with the other guys short of dragging him on with a truck and chain. The show is not just about DP .What are they going to play anyway ? Smoke ? And that's it ? Probably. BFD .So go on and on about no Ritchie , no Purple. They can't induct Airey or Morse .But the band doesn't want to leave them out completely. They've been touring as equal members for more years than Ritchie played in the band . I go back far enough to remember people huffing and puffing about Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac ."IT'S THE END OF THE BAND " Well about 6 members later,there was still a Fleetwood Mac. BTW .If you go back and look at the songwriting credits for all those great classic DP songs before perfect strangers . It says , " Paice , Lord , Glover , Blackmore, Gillan " So they aren't Ritchie's exclusive property . But there is no use trying to convince the faithful .Cheers .
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The current band is the band right now .Has been for years .Ritchie , from what I know about him , wouldn't set foot on stage with the other guys short of dragging him on with a truck and chain. The show is not just about DP .What are they going to play anyway ? Smoke ? And that's it ? Probably. BFD .So go on and on about no Ritchie , no Purple. They can't induct Airey or Morse .But the band doesn't want to leave them out completely. They've been touring as equal members for more years than Ritchie played in the band . I go back far enough to remember people huffing and puffing about Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac ."IT'S THE END OF THE BAND " Well about 6 members later,there was still a Fleetwood Mac. BTW .If you go back and look at the songwriting credits for all those great classic DP songs before perfect strangers . It says , " Paice , Lord , Glover , Blackmore, Gillan " So they aren't Ritchie's exclusive property . But there is no use trying to convince the faithful .Cheers .




The point your missing is that despite the length of time SM has been in DP as JSA1 says nobody knows DP for their post Blackmore work.The Fleetwood Mac comparison is daft as FM went on to become huge AFTER PG left ,Thats most certainly not the case for DP!!BTW yes the songs all went down as group compositions but the fact is that 9 times out of 10 its was Ritchie who came up with the ideas and after all it was Ritchie who chose the direction the band were going to take.And as i said before thats coming from his bandmates not from me or any other fan.
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The songs were credited to all for a 'political' reason, so that nobody would feel left out of the money pot from publishing rights. When they got back together in 84, Blackmore insisted that credits would go to those contributing only, and suddenly Lord and Paice were credited only on 2 songs - Gillan and Glover were credited for the lyrics, so this is what it was really like. And it was like that also prior to the break-up, to the point that the real songwriter in the band got fed up with the system and imposed a different one as one of the conditions for the reunion.
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The songs were credited to all for a 'political' reason, so that nobody would feel left out of the money pot from publishing rights. When they got back together in 84, Blackmore insisted that credits would go to those contributing only, and suddenly Lord and Paice were credited only on 2 songs - Gillan and Glover were credited for the lyrics, so this is what it was really like. And it was like that also prior to the break-up, to the point that the real songwriter in the band got fed up with the system and imposed a different one as one of the conditions for the reunion.



Thats exactly the scenario that i have always been led to believe from reports and interviews over the years.

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My favourite classic rock station compiled a list of all songs that were in their top 500 list at the end of the year.
In this list they took all songs that were in it in the period 2000-2015 and counted all results together.

2. Child In Time
17. Smoke On The Water
51. Highway Star
72. Lazy
156. Black Night
180. Burn
237. Woman From Tokyo
239. Perfect Strangers
323. Speed King
332. Fireball
378. Strange Kind Of Woman
806. Hush

So all the inducted line-ups are in it.
Not one of the others.
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My favourite classic rock station compiled a list of all songs that were in their top 500 list at the end of the year.
In this list they took all songs that were in it in the period 2000-2015 and counted all results together.

2. Child In Time
17. Smoke On The Water
51. Highway Star
72. Lazy
156. Black Night
180. Burn
237. Woman From Tokyo
239. Perfect Strangers
323. Speed King
332. Fireball
378. Strange Kind Of Woman
806. Hush

So all the inducted line-ups are in it.
Not one of the others.



The answer is in your first sentence... "classic rock radio station". emoticon
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dp344 wrote:

My favourite classic rock station compiled a list of all songs that were in their top 500 list at the end of the year.
In this list they took all songs that were in it in the period 2000-2015 and counted all results together.

2. Child In Time
17. Smoke On The Water
51. Highway Star
72. Lazy
156. Black Night
180. Burn
237. Woman From Tokyo
239. Perfect Strangers
323. Speed King
332. Fireball
378. Strange Kind Of Woman
806. Hush

So all the inducted line-ups are in it.
Not one of the others.



The answer is in your first sentence... "classic rock radio station". emoticon



Yeah the answer is MK Morse have influenced NOBODY!! Note all those tracks apart from PS were written in a 5 year period ,MK Morse as you love to point out have had over 20 years together and yet get a grand total of ZERO on that list. emoticon But of course as you also like to point out they are not about influencing people today or indeed in the last 20 years emoticon
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