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I had not enough time to visit this forum for a couple of days. I tried to read the posts of the last days and started to do so, but honestly, I don't want to read the same insults, the same views again and again and again.
So maybe there is nothing knew in this thread, maybe everything and every answer to my questions has already been posted. Some thoughts I had in the last days:
Wasn´t it Ritchie, who refused to play during the Jon Lord tribute, because "everybody mourns in his own way"? It would have been a realistic chance for a one-off-reunion.
Did Ritchie ever apologize for having left the band in the middle of a tour? If not, I would have a problem to play with him, if I was Ian, Roger or Ian.
As I understood Gillan's last statement, he invited Ritchie to play with them SotW. So it seems, he jumped over his shadow. In this case it would be up to Ritchie, to accept, that theres still a band called Deep Purple which he once was a(n important)part of. And at the same time he could prove to everyone, that he is still an important ex-member by joining them on stage and maybe blow the others away. Does he have enough guts to do that?
Who says, that Ian Gillan is the boss of this band and has to say everything? Any proofs for that? And not speculations, please.
Which lies did Gillan tell about Ritchie? Facts please, no interpretations.
And in general: I´m 58 years old. I´m a fan since 1971. As I pointed out before, I didn't like MK III, but that's my problem. But the world didn't die for me in 1993. Jon Lord said after Ritchie left (not quoted by word): "If people think, there is no life after Ritchie, that's fine. If people think, there is, it's even better." I think there is ...
And by the way: I still don't care if the band or any member or ex-member is inducted in this RRHoF-circus ...

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As I understood Gillan's last statement, he invited Ritchie to play with them SotW. So it seems, he jumped over his shadow. In this case it would be up to Ritchie, to accept, that theres still a band called Deep Purple which he once was a(n important)part of. And at the same time he could prove to everyone, that he is still an important ex-member by joining them on stage and maybe blow the others away. Does he have enough guts to do that?


Ritchie doesn't identify with the name Deep Purple. And he didn't do in 1984 or 1993. He says this clearly on the documentary DVD. And he doesn't need to identify with the name DP. He could (and can) make it big with Rainbow, whereas Gillan never could make it big without DP.

Those who want to see Ritchie perform at the HOF ceremony are his fans (and yes, I would like to see him doing that too), he himself doesn't care. And he needn't care.

Moreover I don't think that Gillan (or someone of the others) will be too sad about doing SOTW at the HOF ceremony without Ritchie. Gillan always said he wants to perform with the "living breathing DP" of which Blackmore isn't a part.


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"Did Ritchie ever apologize for having left the band in the middle of a tour?"

Did Gillan ever apologize to everyone that he fucked up as a singer during many years due to over excessive boozing and smoking?

Did Gillan ever apologize for the long on going lies in interviews about for instance the TBRO tour?




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"Did Ritchie ever apologize for having left the band in the middle of a tour?"

Did Gillan ever apologize to everyone that he fucked up as a singer during many years due to over excessive boozing and smoking?

Did Gillan ever apologize for the long on going lies in interviews about for instance the TBRO tour?







That's no answer to my question.
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Did Gillan ever apologize for the long on going lies in interviews about for instance the TBRO tour?




Good point. Footage from the TBRO tour has surfaced and what i saw was full packed shows and no empty halls AT ALL.
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Did Gillan ever apologize to everyone that he fucked up as a singer during many years due to over excessive boozing and smoking?




Wait, you mean that wasn't from a "cold"? emoticon

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Did Gillan ever apologize to everyone that he fucked up as a singer during many years due to over excessive boozing and smoking?




Wait, you mean that wasn't from a "cold"? emoticon




The issue is, that it´s not really true. Actually - he CHANGED his style of singing, because otherwise - he would not be able to SPEAK with his attitude of early 70s Purple singing in very short time! His natural voice actually stayed nearly the same - listen to Episode Six stuff and stuff from 2000s.... that characterstic voice is instantly recognizable! Actually in 70 - 73 period of Purple he sang OTHER way, than during the rest of career, he used much more aggresive style, which actually took the toll extremely fast - and you can hear that he´s vocally pretty worn and tired during 73. His real vocal peak came in late 70s and early 80s (which is natural, because that´s the time when development of voice is finished - at the age between 30 - 35 years). Sadly in 82 vocal nodules came in and struck him hard. Vocal nodules is common issue for singers (for example Freddie Mercury had them too) and they affect the voice a lot. Than some infection, issues..... the short rest helped. Then - Born Again - one of absolute vocal masterpieces of rock music history! And sadly Born Again tour, which took enormous toll. Very variable performances in 80s, lowest point of his singing career with TBRO Tour and then - he got distinctively better! In late 90s he sang better than during most of 80s! In 00s age started to take its toll too - his voice got lower, he lost couple of highest notes, but his unique tone remained the same. So I do not agree that IG "lost voice" - it´s actually absolute nonsense.

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Did Gillan ever apologize for the long on going lies in interviews about for instance the TBRO tour?




Good point. Footage from the TBRO tour has surfaced and what i saw was full packed shows and no empty halls AT ALL.



I was at the Oslo concert on the 15th of November 1993, and it was the only time I've seen a big portion of the hall covered with big, black blankets because of poor ticketsales. If I remember correctly there was about 6500 in the audience that night. I think the hall can take about 9000 depending on the size of the stage. By 1998 and the Abandon Tour the hall was almost filled to capasity. So I guess it wasn't all another Gillanish lie then?

I'm stunned by all the outrage and hate displayed at this forum by a few "fans". You guys take it way to serious. After all, it's just a rockband emoticon
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I was at the Oslo concert on the 15th of November 1993, and it was the only time I've seen a big portion of the hall covered with big, black blankets because of poor ticketsales. If I remember correctly there was about 6500 in the audience that night. I think the hall can take about 9000 depending on the size of the stage. By 1998 and the Abandon Tour the hall was almost filled to capasity. So I guess it wasn't all another Gillanish lie then?




All the German shows in 1993 were sold out, but the halls were half empty in 1994. So it seems that lies and truth depends on the country...



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DP have been my favorite band since the summer of 1973. Being inducted into the HOF should be a time for the band, and fans of the band to celebrate. Instead we get arguments with people taking sides with the Gillan camp or the Blackmore camp, fueled by statements by representatives from both sides. It's time for both these gentlemen, both in their 70's, to bury the hatchet but they can't seem to do that. They should use DC as an example of how to act, He's shown nothing but class!! I'm getting tired of both these clowns (Gillan and Blackmore) and I don't care who started it.
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