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I'm quite sure you can make all sorts of reasons for Don and Steve but NONE of them are musical


But I can do. Steve is a better guitar-player than Ritchie and Don is as good as Jon was ....
And again: That's my opinion, I don't state it as a fact, as some ohter posters do when they talk about their opinions ...



In what way do you think Steve is a better guitar player than Ritchie?Personally Im not qualified to judge whose better technically as i can't play the guitar ,but i know for a fact that Ritchie Blackmores guitar playing touches me like no other I have heard.The same goes for Jons keyboard playing.Still if we were all the same the world would be a boring place emoticon



Main point is that Steve and Ritchie are so different players that they are almost like comparing american football with european football - completely different sports of the same name with completely different rules, different +/- (that´s very subjective - for example I dont like american football at all), it´s just impossible to say who is "better" without setting and explaining the criteria - how do you review that? There is one thing I can say for sure - Ritchie was better improviser at his inspired nights (we are talking about Purple era - that´s why "was" - there is not much space for such a type of improvisation with BN), Steve is better player in terms of technique (which is quite natural because he is guitar player of different generation; today there are probably guitar players which are better in terms of technique than Steve). So quite frankly - I think that Steve would probably never came up with stuff like Ritchie´s guitar solo in Anya during Stuttgart gig, but also I think that Ritchie would never be able to play a lots of Steve´s stuff (including some stuff done with Deep Purple). I think they have completely different musical thinking... and it´s about us which is closer to our tastes.

It´s matter of taste so please dont attack me for this what I´m gonna write now:
When I hear Ritchie´s improvised mess in Space Truckin on Perfect Strangers Live release... actually I have absolutely no issue with fact, that Deep Purple plays Well-Dressed Guitar as part of Steve´s part of the show for 15 years, because it´s great and very difficult (ask guitar players who tried to learn it!) instrumental song - sometimes even he himself mess it up (as in Montreux 2006).

But there is one fact - both are guitar wizards of their own styles!

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Any British snooker fan here ?

RB = Alex Higgins

SM = Steve Davies

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Main point is that Steve and Ritchie are so different players that they are almost like comparing american football with european football - completely different sports of the same name with completely different rules, different +/- (that´s very subjective - for example I dont like american football at all), it´s just impossible to say who is "better" without setting and explaining the criteria - how do you review that? There is one thing I can say for sure - Ritchie was better improviser at his inspired nights (we are talking about Purple era - that´s why "was" - there is not much space for such a type of improvisation with BN), Steve is better player in terms of technique (which is quite natural because he is guitar player of different generation; today there are probably guitar players which are better in terms of technique than Steve). So quite frankly - I think that Steve would probably never came up with stuff like Ritchie´s guitar solo in Anya during Stuttgart gig, but also I think that Ritchie would never be able to play a lots of Steve´s stuff (including some stuff done with Deep Purple). I think they have completely different musical thinking... and it´s about us which is closer to our tastes.


Yeah, there's a lot of truth in that.

And myself I'm a fan of european football ... emoticon
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Loudest band in the world- guiness book of records



Sometimes I wish this forum had a "like" function emoticon



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Loudest band in the world- guiness book of records



Sometimes I wish this forum had a "like" function emoticon



At least this is an award which is down to physical facts that cannot be discussed. emoticon

Moreover, DP probably is one of the rock bands with the most radical musical changes resulting from their line-up changes. Sadly there's no award for that...
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I'm quite sure you can make all sorts of reasons for Don and Steve but NONE of them are musical


But I can do. Steve is a better guitar-player than Ritchie and Don is as good as Jon was ....
And again: That's my opinion, I don't state it as a fact, as some ohter posters do when they talk about their opinions ...



In what way do you think Steve is a better guitar player than Ritchie?Personally Im not qualified to judge whose better technically as i can't play the guitar ,but i know for a fact that Ritchie Blackmores guitar playing touches me like no other I have heard.The same goes for Jons keyboard playing.Still if we were all the same the world would be a boring place emoticon



I've been playing for 50 years. Steve Morse is a master technician, knows the fingerboard and all of the rudiments of music inside out, a master of many styles. If we were talking the Olympics SM would be taking a ton of gold.

But its not gymnastics is it ...... theres another element.

RB is simply a master at being Ritchie Blackmore and when he got it right (with just a few notes) he could create the most exciting and moving rock guitar ........ EVER !

Neil Young can also do it with 1 note ...... and Pete Townsend with a simple suspended chord put in the right place.

Music needs soul and Blackmore's always had it, he's a one off at being RB, thats why he's so hard to follow. Bolin was a one off too, they should have dropped RB's songs and just started afresh, perhaps with a different name.




That's some very good comparisons I think.

Agree.

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some interesting answers there guys ,heres another question, Who Is the better Deep Purple guitarist?
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some interesting answers there guys ,heres another question, Who Is the better Deep Purple guitarist?



It´s not simple question - it depends on detailed conditions. As I said numerous times IMHO standard Mk7/Mk8 shows were/are better than bad shows of Mk2 (b or c) and this could have been caused by very off night by IG or moody Ritchie... Ritchie on best nights was untouchable (I have never denied this!), but Ritchie at his worst was like nightmare and any good guitar player would make a better (or let´s say "more proper") job than him...

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some interesting answers there guys ,heres another question, Who Is the better Deep Purple guitarist?


That's difficult to decide between

Christopher Cross
Randy California
George Harrison
Mike Bradford
Jürgen Blackmore (played with them in Hamburg a few years ago)
Roger Glover (played the end of SOTW various times)
and a few others I can't remember.

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some interesting answers there guys ,heres another question, Who Is the better Deep Purple guitarist?


That's difficult to decide between

Christopher Cross
Randy California
George Harrison
Mike Bradford
Jürgen Blackmore (played with them in Hamburg a few years ago)
Roger Glover (played the end of SOTW various times)
and a few others I can't remember.





yeah thats a difficult one right enough emoticon
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