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You have to keep on mind one extremely important thing some of you seem to ignore.

Ask "what´s real priority for band?" As I told you - for IG it´s obviously band and current band´s plans for near future - planned album and touring for that album. That´s why he stood behind Steve and Don and probably decided to decline to go to RRHOF. It´s like saying: "you are ignoring current touring, working, recording band? Fine - but we are not finished yet and we are doing very well, so f.. off with your circus based on past". There is noone in the band who should "prefer" RRHOF (which is kind of nostalgic thing like remembering old things which happened 4 decades ago) over today and future (which is going to be relatively short - it can be just couple of years only).

Band´s plans for recording new album and touring are 1000000x more important than RRHOF induction and because of that - being on side with Don and Steve is something... actually natural! It really seems to me that it´s more about fans living in the past than band members themselves. It´s logic, that former members are going to be happy to remind their "heydays" with DP, because their DP era is gone for decades, but for current band with lots of plans for future?

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Gillan didn't say that he refuses to go to the ceremony because they want to tour or whatever. His reason is another one, and he ignores the fact that the HOF honours something which is, according to their rules, more than 25 years ago.

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Robert Trujillo was inducted with Metallica in 2009.... he joined the band in 2003! There is no rule about 25 years for member to be inducted, it´s for band to be inducted.

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And Blackmore can give a speech like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-zV4GaElko

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But again: That's my opinion. And I would be lucky, if some other posters would say, that their statements are their opinions. And not facts. Because the way music touches you is always about taste. And not about facts.

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I don't feel the need to say "in my opinion" every time I say something. I presume that people just assume that I am expressing a personal viewpoint.

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Yes, but the point is that there are some people here who talk like "fact is" when they express their personal opinion.

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Yes, but if everybody else just assumed they meant "opinion" even when they said "fact", the forum would be a lot more peaceful

(And less boring... honestly, isn't everyone bored of "I'm right" "you're wrong" repeated over and over again for 20 pages? I don't know how the culprits can do it without falling asleep themselves, never mind us poor sods trying to read it.)

Oh and (as it's probably my last post of the year) I wish you ALL a merry Christmas and a happy new year... and that's a fact

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Lets not go there again ptr WE ALL KNOW Gillans being an arse about this.As somebody else said before ask his Gillan bandmates about supporting bandmates and colleugues.

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Maybe that time and age plays important role? Correct me if I´m wrong but Steve is longest constant-working partnership guitar player IG ever had... Actually Steve is longer with DP than sum of all Gillan solo projects (with various members) combined and Don? 13 constant years. Ian Gillan Band started in 75 and Gillan ended in 82. Also - maybe that in 1980s IG was slightly different man than he is in 2015? And by the way - Gillan was Gillan´s band, till today it´s seen as his "solo career" - he had full right to do whatever he wanted (as Ritchie had with Rainbow)... Deep Purple are not Gillan´s band!

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Look ptr they can say what they like but Don and Steve are hired hands i.e. replacements for the real thing .Gillan is in charge of DP now of that there is no doubt, Gillan is the prima donna i.e. the one who insists on his own dressing room,Gillan chooses the setlist.It is of no importance whatsoever how long Steve has been in the band.It was not Steves time in the band that led to the legendary status the band enjoys.If Gillan has grown up and changed so much over the years why can't he accept this induction without all the sh1t?He had full right to do what he did in Gillan you say?Yes i suppose he did and that included treating his long time friend Mick Underwood like sh1t.Yes the same Mick Underwood that recommended Gillan to Ritchie back in the Episode Six days which led to his big break.Quite honestly I don't believe a word Gillan has to say these days.

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Yep, as usual requesting his own dressing room - what a proof for "prima donna manners".... AFAIK Tony, Geezer and Ozzy all request their own dressing rooms, what a spoiled arrogant stars!

No, AFAIK all of them are creating setlist and all of them have veto right. So no it´s not Gillan who writes a setlist and say others what they will play tonight. It´s band´s decision!

Your comment about Steve not being there when fame of DP have been built is absolutely irrelevant!!! Why? IG only said "fine, you ignored Steve and Don => I´m not going to be there" (it´s his full right!). Why? Because I guess that their friendship and future of still continuing career (let´s say upcoming few years) is more important for IG now than things which happened more than 40 years ago. The issue is that there are fans living in the past - fine you want to value what happened decades ago, but NOW is more important than THEN when you have plans for future! Fact that Steve plays with DP for 21 years and Don for 13 years (he´s notoriously known that he never worked with any band in such a long-term period) simply means one thing - they enjoy presence of each other and performing and recording together. It´s meant as personal gesture - you wouldnt support your friends when you would think that something unfair is going on towards them? Actually - going there and doing like "nothing happened" (towards Steve and Don) and ignoring last decades (and present times) from his position just to recieve award for something what happened decades ago - my opinion is that it would be almost "selfish" and arrogant from current "classic" members and extremely disrespectful towards Steve and Don. Therefore - it´s completely correct that Don and Steve are going to be consulted about the question who is going to appear there! Maybe they (Steve and Don) will agree with that and they will say "we dont have a problem with that induction - go there, we dont care" - then, it would be completely OK... But now? Fine - RRHOF did this fault, but I think it would be epic mistake to "pretend" that everything is OK (we dont care about ignoring of our present) - we dont care... it would be like approving and agreement with RRHOF´s action... This statement simply means NOW is more important for us than THEN - and it´s completely correct!

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ptr your talking pure and utter nonsense mate Ian Gillan would not be performing anywhere with anyone if it hadn't been for what happened over 40 years ago!!! he's a finished washed up has been who is playing with basically a tribute act to the glory days of the 70s.NOTHING and I mean NOTHING post reunion matters a jot to the world of Rock music.I know it Gillan knows it and if your honest then you know it too.How in the name can you say that NOW matters more than THEN ??? NOW doesn't matter a jot.You talk about fans being stuck in the past?The band are bloody stuck in the past .MK Morse have not developed at all since the brilliant debut Purpendicular .They have treaded water for the last 20 years and are now sinking.

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I´m NOT talking about music scene, I´m talking about their probable feelings as human beings!

For ANY band - it´s the last record which is the most important. For any writer - the last book is the one which is important. For any athlete - the LAST result is the one which is important. I´m not writer but I have a blog for couple of months now - and it´s only the last article and dicussion below the last article which I´m reading, because I dont care about older ones (although I know that some of the older ones were the most read and those old ones brought me most regular readers)... It´s all about the PRESENT, not about the past, and it doesnt matter how succesful my past was. MAIN thing is NOW and what will follow! I dont consider myself as "artist" - because I´m not, but I KNOW that it´s how artists usually live - that´s why many musicians usually dont listen to their records, that´s why many artists are annoyed during interviews when you are talking with them about old stuff instead of recent one... Why do you think that they did MTV song? It´s all about this actually! Rolling Stones released new record (finally they have a plan for new one) - let´s have a fun with their music and let´s play Satisfaction! Paul McCartney released new album... hmmm let´s play Hey Jude from Beatles or... Live and Let Die... Precisely THIS (and it´s your, not mine!) attitude completely murders the possible impact of new stuff! You may noticed that when we have done both interviews with Don, the first and most important major part of interview ALWAYS have been about NOW or about future plans. Why? Because we see Don and Deep Purple as still relevant artists... Actually I´m probably starting to understand Carole with the famous story about firing Swedish reporter.... it´s precisely about THIS obtuseness caused by living in the past! What band can do, when they play setlist which is full of recent and actual material, but rock-radio generic listeners (ignorants!) want to hear old stuff from times when they were young... One of these guys was near to me - and he said many comments like "I hope they are going to do old stuff, I dont wanna hear any new sh*t" - I showed him the set from previous night and he was like "Apres Vous, I dont know that, some new crap; Vincent Price, another new sh*t, what the hell is this part - I know NOTHING from that...." - play a show made from new or recent ones for audience with such a dumb ignorants!!!! Absolute mystery for me was - why the hell he was in front row?! With annoyed face for more than half of the show! So it´s people like YOU and that guy (I described) who are the reason why they do what you are calling as "basically a tribute act to the glory days of the 70s" because of your stupid ignorant attitude brilliantly defined and described by you as "NOTHING and I mean NOTHING post reunion matters; How in the name can you say that NOW matters more than THEN! NOW doesn't matter a jot." - THIS attitude is PRECISELY the main reason and it´s actually YOU who is stuck in the past. The band would LOVE to play new and recent stuff - but the fans like YOU do not allow them to do that!!!!! And sorry, because I got really angry by this utter crap you wrote!

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Four Months to practice and prepare for the big night !!!

Ritchie is rehearsing "SOTW" with Ronnie Romero.
Glenn is practicing "Gettin' Tighter" with Doug Aldrich.
David is doing "You Keep on Moving" with Reb Beach.
Paicey is begging Ian and Steve to let him attend.
Nick is wondering whether he is an inductee or not.
Rod is a "Mystery".
Roger has written his speech for his induction on a piece of paper, but Ian took it and use it as a lyrics to their new song.

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In my opinion Morse wants to play jazz fusion music, I think his heart belong there, but somehow he became a hard rock guitarist. 😀 🎸

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