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Morse Purple vs.No Purple

So which would be better,
a)A band that thrives
b)No band at all

Getting pretty tired of the crap from people that refuse
to grow with this band just because they used to have a better guitarist.(you know who you are)
So maybe this thread can help those people move on
so we can live in the reality that he isn't coming back and that is that.
If the band has a musician or two or three or four or five
that keep it together for you than this is a good place to express it.
I am of the opinion that there has never been a better lineup without Ian Gillan,any substitute just doesn't cut it for me.
Don't get me wrong I love each and every line up and think they have all had something substantial to offer.

But it's important to realise that every single time they change a band member they also change musical direction.
(that doesn't mean they shouldn't play the classic's
or change the name)

IMHO There has not been one album without Gillan that beat's any album with him.There are better album's than Abandon but I'll take Gillan's vocal's over any of them.

S&M was fine by me but I can do without the vocal's.
The same goes for the mark 3 and 4 album's.
What do the forum members think?
Feel free to use any line up to choose from
with or without Blackmore or Gillan or Lord.
I edited this post so as not to get the wrong message accross to those who use Abandon to make their point.
I guess I'm just flexable when it comes to guitarist's
but I'm sure SOME people aren't.
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If a guitar player can't be as good as the one before him
is it so wrong to be different,so as to form a new direction,instead of merely copying? emoticon

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quote:

FatLarryandhiscar wrote:

I am of the opinion that there has never been a better lineup without Ian Gillan,any substitute just doesn't cut it for me.
There has not been one album without him that beat's
any album with him.



IMO Burn, Stormbringer and CCTB rate much higher than WDWTWA, HOBL and Abandon. S&M is better than Abandon too (gets flame-proof suit on emoticon).

But yes, Morse Purple is better than no Purple of course. They are still capable of putting on a blinding show - Glasgow this year for example.

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Yes, I think S&M is way better than Abandon too, better songs, better playing, better production, you could tell they still had some fire to prove themselves. To answer your question, yes, Morse Purple is certainly better than no Purple at all, they do deliver, albeit in a different way from the 70s (slightly inferior dare I say) and not as well as they did when Blackmore was on form or indeed when Lord was still in the band. However, I hope they keep going, every single show I saw with Morse rated from very good (Athens in 2000 for example) to effing excellent (Nottingham 2002) and Purpendicular and Bananas both pass then test (the first one with flying colours!) so there is no way I could ever knock them.
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a)a band that thrives - definetely!
As a DP fan I was never that kind of who saw Ritchie Blackmore (or THE guitarist)as the most important member of them.Sure,if people ask me,who was DP,the essential,I'd have to answer Blackmore/Lord/Paice,they were the core to me which identifys the classic DP.But in no offend to any of the several other line-ups.
I for myself,have a feel to the pre and post albums as two different leagues,in a way,that I saw Blackmore rather important for the early albums.
So everything they've released after Perfect Strangers,didn't make it necessary,in my retrospect,to have TMIB in the band to survive.
(and this is also not to offend or underestimate RB)
I rather feel Steves role much more important when he took over in 94,because he's part of the fact that they are still there.
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Give me option "A", please. The Morse/Blackmore versions of the band debates could, and will, go on endlessly, but the fact is I am happy with the albums they have put out, and with being able to see them live now three times, and hopefully a fourth next year if/when they tour the U.S. for Bananas.

And in this case, I agree with Larry. All the Gillan fronted versions of the band are better than the non-Gillan versions. Everybody has something that ties the band together for them, and I know for many it was Blackmore, but to me, the vocals are the "sound" of the band. Musicians can change, but vocalists are the voice of the band, and I notice that change much more than I do a guitarist change. I like a good solo, but that's not what sticks for me, it's the vocals that I remember. I really don't care for Coverdale, either in Purple or Whiresnake, don't like the "cock rock" feel he brings to the table.

So please, if your not happy with the Morse era, don't go to the shows, that means better tickets for me! emoticon

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I'll take a). As a relative newcomer to Morse Purple, I like the shows I've heard so far emoticon.

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Great Point FLaHC.
I want to hear my favorite band change and grow and use the musical capabilities of new members. I was bored with these guys after HOBL. When I took a chance and bought Purpendicular I was pleasantly surprised and pleased with the change and the music. I have enjoyed all the different versions and music this band has put out.
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)))s IMHO as is good as MH, and better than Fireball or In Rock. Thats how I feel. As far as I'm concerned the bands greatest feats were not entirely associated in the 1970s. As a matter of fact I like reunion DP better than I do from the 1970s. I think the band is great now live and in the studio.

I don't subscribe to the theory the older you get, the suckier you get. Look at Doug Flutie as an example. He torched the Vikes last week after the idiot Schottenheimer woke up and finally believed in playing the guy. No other player in the NFL has been screwed by doochebag coaches (Wade Phillips) GMs, etc. like Flutie. The guy flat out competes every damn time he takes the field. People always want to concentrate on his size (5'-7" and 165 lbs) and age (41) rather than his ability. DF is a great QB and great competitor. If only someone gave him the chance to be himself in the NFL, he might have been one of the greatest. Lets not forget the fact that DF is a DP fan as well, present and backstage during the 01 MA show. In his band he covers HS and Smoke.

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I did not know that about Doug Flutie. (being a DP fan that is)
I've always liked him. That whole underdog thing for me. Like to see the underdogs prevail.
I think I need a new football team to watch. the Cleveland Browns are driving me crazy. Butch Davis needs his head examined.
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Larry:
I absolutely think purple used to have a better guitarist, and I enjoy saying so, because I think Blackmore has qualities that are underrated (not on this forum though) while Morse has more obvious qualities that makes it easy to understand he's won the title of 'Guitarplayer of the Year' seven times in a row. From what I heard of Tommy Bolin I also think he was much better than Morse. Not technically but musically much more colourful and inspirering.

This does not mean that I refuse to grow with the band. Neither does it mean that I don't appreciate the current line up. It simply means when I go to see mk VIII in a couple of weeks, I don't expect them to be as good as the band once was. Ian Gillan hasn't the same voice, the band doesn't spark like they once did. I don't think it would be fair to expect anything else either. I won't go to the show with a big We Want Blackmore banner, but if I could choose outta my dreams I would prefer Blackers instead of Morse.

Larry, your post is good and your point is clear. Now please read me: This forum is The place where I can cry out my grief. No friends, no other forum will listen. Here I meet people who think the same, and I can argue with people with different but interesting opnions. Like yours.
There are things being said here that kinda annoy me, but I usually choose not to care. I won't tell you how to react though.

You may say that I live in the past, but that's just a way of putting it. Maybe you didn't think of me at all with your post, but I know one you did have in mind, I don't even have to say who. Thing is I usually agree with him, in your otherwise interesting arguments. So I believe I'm in those shadows you're pointing at. Hence this reply.

With the greatest respect,
AT Armstrong


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