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Dartagnan
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
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quote: Boulder Bolin wrote:
I should probably confess that Stormbringer is right up there with Burn as a couple of the best DP releases,but neither one quite reaches the height of Come Taste The Band-my fav all-time DP album!!Love it or hate it,it's the ONLY DP effort that still sounds fresh and relative in 2008.Most MkII studio material sounds poorly aged and horribly dated,to go along with substandard production values.Let me put on my helmet in anticipation of incoming flying blunt objects. CHEERS
It's strange really, isn't it. Bolin is held in such high regard on these boards, yet he apparently regularly made a habit of murdering DP's earlier material in a live setting, presumably because he didn't like it very much (?), and yet Morse is vilified for what, I suppose, one could say is having a professional attitude to it all?
Why have a go at Morse time and time again for the way he plays Perfect Starngers, or even SOTW, when Bolin never could play Burn?
I've heard many a story of Bolin having 'difficulties' with old Purple numbers, but seemingly having little problem when it came to playing numbers from CTTB.
I think Morse is simply a very professional musician. 'Nuff said.
Is this opinion formed still not having heard any Morse material?
Ah-ha! Now I never said I hadn't heard any of it. Well, should I say, seen it? I mean, where would I be without youtube, eh.
Noone could seriously suggest that Steve Morse can't play the guitar. Nor could anyone suggest (although I'm sure someone will) that as he is so good at it, then maybe he should try to sound and act exactly as Mr B once did although those years ago.
Then that would truly be a 'cabaret act', wouldn't it?
Bolin use to play the Smoke riff totally different to Blackmore, if my memory serves me right? So let's slag him off, too, eh?
I haven't heard Morse's version of Perfect Strangers. I shall visit youtube asap and seek it out if it's available.
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
quote: Boulder Bolin wrote:
I should probably confess that Stormbringer is right up there with Burn as a couple of the best DP releases,but neither one quite reaches the height of Come Taste The Band-my fav all-time DP album!!Love it or hate it,it's the ONLY DP effort that still sounds fresh and relative in 2008.Most MkII studio material sounds poorly aged and horribly dated,to go along with substandard production values.Let me put on my helmet in anticipation of incoming flying blunt objects. CHEERS
Well spoken!
Although I think some tracks on Fireball still sound really good, especially Fools and Demon's Eye.
I've never cared much for Machine Head, a horribly overrated album IMO.
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31/3/2008, 13:09
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
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Well Rezi,it seems we share the opinion that Morse tkes all the ambience and majesty out of PS and replaces it with tasteless whammy bar histrionics.The tracks' original appeal,to me anyway,was the foreboding sound of Blackmores' playing with some space for depth and shade.Morse takes the song down the weary,overtraveled 80s' distortion deluxe treatment,rendering everything I found exciting about the song in the first place,unrecognizable and mute.A hack-job of epic proportions-that's a fact! CHEERS
Again, my thoughts exactly. I think SM is okay on the studio tracks, they mostly suffer from having too many (not all) dull songs these days, but live he's the absolute pits -professional, clinical, utterly predictable, eighties-sounding -everything I don't like in a guitarist.
Give me an unpredictable genius any day over that, be his name TB or RB.
But I can understand how the "saving up for retirement" DP of today prefer working with decent, professional reliable people (like SM, who seems to be a nice enough chap). They're just not into playing with crazy people just to give us hardcore fans the kicks we crave. So it's really no big deal. They just need someone who can crank out BN, SOTW, HS etc etc night after night after night after year after decade...
If they could just tell the man to lay off the eighties-sounding widdle-weeeee stuff, and never, ever play inferior nonsense like TWDG again, everyone's life would be immeasurably improved.
Everything I say is 100% logical, well-researched fact and not open to discussion. ;-)
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I could actually agree on most points here..
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I've never cared much for Machine Head, a horribly overrated album IMO.
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Deep Purple Mark II was the most talented and greatest hard rock band ever. Machine Head was their greatest album and still is the definitive hard rock album. Mark Crap is nothing more than a Ritchie Blackmore/Machine Head tribute band.
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
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quote: Boulder Bolin wrote:
I should probably confess that Stormbringer is right up there with Burn as a couple of the best DP releases,but neither one quite reaches the height of Come Taste The Band-my fav all-time DP album!!Love it or hate it,it's the ONLY DP effort that still sounds fresh and relative in 2008.Most MkII studio material sounds poorly aged and horribly dated,to go along with substandard production values.Let me put on my helmet in anticipation of incoming flying blunt objects. CHEERS
Well spoken!
Although I think some tracks on Fireball still sound really good, especially Fools and Demon's Eye.
I've never cared much for Machine Head, a horribly overrated album IMO.
Ooops... INCOMING!!
I'm sorry. I really try hard to respect others' opinions, but that my friends, is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t. CTTB is a good album, still good to listen to, but it would even have been noticed without MkII's work. It's just stuff for the pleasure of posting something - anything - on the forum...
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31/3/2008, 18:15
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
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I'm sorry. I really try hard to respect others' opinions, but that my friends, is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t.
Well, each to his own, right?
quote: Al Erikson wrote: CTTB is a good album, still good to listen to,
I agree :-)
quote: Al Erikson wrote: but it would even have been noticed without MkII's work.
You're right. DP MkIV was of course riding on the fame and hard work of MkII especially, and to some much lesser degree on MkIII.
It still doesn't change my views about MH being overrated -musically, that is. It's impact, on the other hand, is of course undeniable.
quote: Al Erikson wrote: It's just stuff for the pleasure of posting something - anything - on the forum...
Nope, it's not. People have different views, you know. What's sacred to you may not be to others. I don't think MH contains DP:s strongest material, it's as simple as that. IMHO, IR is a much stronger album.
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Nope, it's not. People have different views, you know. What's sacred to you may not be to others. I don't think MH contains DP:s strongest material, it's as simple as that. IMHO, IR is a much stronger album.
Let's try to remain coherent. I have no problem to say that MH doesn't necessarily contain DP's strongest material. IR and F might really challenge MH if you ask my opinion.
Now, it's a totally different thing to say that MH is an "horribly overrated album" and that "Stormbringer is right up there with Burn as a couple of the best DP releases, but neither one quite reaches the height of Come Taste The Band (which)is the ONLY DP effort that still sounds fresh and relative in 2008" or that "Most MkII studio material sounds poorly aged and horribly dated, to go along with substandard production values."
I personally appreciate Deep Purple because of the variety of sounds they offered, through all their line-ups. Great band, great family. But I stand to claim that such statements are only there to express frustration (maybe legitimate) to see one band reduced to one album. I can understand that frustration. But the statements as such make me think that their author is entitled to judge Deep Purple and rock music as much as the Pope is entitled to have an opinion on the Kama Sutra...
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Dartagnan
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
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Nope, it's not. People have different views, you know. What's sacred to you may not be to others. I don't think MH contains DP:s strongest material, it's as simple as that. IMHO, IR is a much stronger album.
Let's try to remain coherent. I have no problem to say that MH doesn't necessarily contain DP's strongest material. IR and F might really challenge MH if you ask my opinion.
Now, it's a totally different thing to say that MH is an "horribly overrated album" and that "Stormbringer is right up there with Burn as a couple of the best DP releases, but neither one quite reaches the height of Come Taste The Band (which)is the ONLY DP effort that still sounds fresh and relative in 2008" or that "Most MkII studio material sounds poorly aged and horribly dated, to go along with substandard production values."
I personally appreciate Deep Purple because of the variety of sounds they offered, through all their line-ups. Great band, great family. But I stand to claim that such statements are only there to express frustration (maybe legitimate) to see one band reduced to one album. I can understand that frustration. But the statements as such make me think that their author is entitled to judge Deep Purple and rock music as much as the Pope is entitled to have an opinion on the Kama Sutra...
Machine Head is Purple's best studio album, IMHO. Let's be honest, and I've said this before, over familiarity had led to the 'down grading' of MH in the opinion of some people.
MH, MIJ and the non-stop playing of the MH/MIJ set by the present line up and earlier 'mks', means that alot of people are, perhaps understandably, fed up with the material.
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Re: Morse's chugging version of Perfect Strangers is brilliant!
quote: I'm sorry. I really try hard to respect others' opinions, but that my friends, is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t. CTTB is a good album, still good to listen to, but it would even have been noticed without MkII's work. It's just stuff for the pleasure of posting something - anything - on the forum...
No,the true, blue b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t is your mind-reading( or lack thereof,Al)abilities regarding my reason for posting.Sorry, but as I see it,it's a bit arrogant to assume the motives for MY opinion.And I've never tried to put forth any argument as to Mk III or IV not greatly benefiting from the work of MkII.As for the"MH is a horribly overrated album"-I didn't post that,so maybe you're a little confused or perhaps a little undermedicated today. Sorry Al,we don't all bow down to the altar of MkII,but that doesn't make us any less a Purple fan than you and yours.I just thought your post was worth a sincere reply-but my opinion ain't gonna change just because you don't like it! CHEERS
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