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The "Boz" & "Sundragon" Sessions, 1968


I've got a question and here 'tis: It's regarding some of the last 'sessions' that Blackmore & Lord have been reputed to have taken part in immediately prior to, or very shortly after the formation of Roundabout/Deep Purple with:
1) future member of King Crimson and future BadCo. bassist/vocalist & co-founder, (the late) Boz Burrell and
2) Sundragon
...through the years I've come across lots of references & details about these two items but I admit to some confusion I still have...whom exactly played what session(s) with whom? I've seen various combinations of the names of the people involved in the genesis of DP credited, including Bobby Clarke! emoticon I've seen Nick Simper credited & not credited, I've seen Chas Hodges' name in the mix, along with the observation that Hodges was being offered the bassist job in the fledgling Roundabout/Deep Purple venture but turned it down.
 Anyone have either the 'accepted' sequence of events & actual personell involved in each particular project, or even just some more 'scuttlebut' we can discuss?
 Here's the tracks reportedly recorded with Sundragon:

"I Want to Be a Rock 'n Roll Star" (2:03)
"Peacock Dress" (2:21)
"Five White Horses" (2:31)
"Love Minus Zero/No Limit" (3:23)

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Re: The "Boz" & "Sundragon" Sessions, 1968


Ritchie Blackmore played guitar on the following tracks:

Boz - I Shall Be Released 2:50
Boz - Down In The Flood 2:14

Sun Dragon - Five White Horses 2:32

Others may have been involved with the other tracks mentioned, as I've never been very interested in the details of Sundragon, so I'd kind of like to know myself... but to my knowledge, the tracks listed above are the ones that feature Ritchie... both of the Boz tracks are typical classic early Ritchie work, but nowhere near his best, the cream of the crop can actually be found, but the stuff is not found in print on anything credited to Ritchie himself, and never really were, so you have to know which tracks he played on by way of experts like record collectors and Heinz fans... they are all on a CD titled "The Complete Heinz Collection" which might even be out of print by now, I'm note sure... and of course the original DECCA singles they were released on in 63-64, but knowing exactly all of which tracks Ritchie played on is another ballgame.
(Some Heinz tracks have been released in Ritchie's name, as many know... but the rest, the true gems, have yet to be...)

An unreal portion of his early catolog awaits release with him credited, the songs all feature a massive glimpse of what the young master would go on to accomplish, unlike the ones currently available under his name in conjunction with Heinz, Joe Meek and others, which can be found on "Rock Profiles Vol.1 and .2" - "Take It Sessions" and "Getaway - Pre Purple Sessions."
Sadly the good stuff is yet to come, for those who do not collect Heinz, but are interested in the best of the work he did with him.
Boz (R.I.P.) and Sundragon were of course later sessions, but it's those early ones that sizzle concerning Ritchie's contributions.

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I've also understood that the BOZ sessions, with "I shall be released" (A-side) and "Down in the Flood" (B-side), featured Blackmore, Lord and Paice, as well as Chas Hodges on bass.

Edit: That was my 10p contribution. I'm too young to be a Deep Purple collector. I should start with Tokio Hotel...

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quote:

Al Erikson wrote:
 I've also understood that the BOZ sessions, with "I shall be released" (A-side) and "Down in the Flood" (B-side), featured Blackmore, Lord and Paice, as well as Chas Hodges on bass.



 Yup, that's one 'combination' I've seen credited, Al. Another couple/few I've seen & read through the years regarding the 'Boz Session(s)': Blackmore, Lord & Simper; Blackmore & Lord only; Blackmore, Bobby Clarke & Lord (these are apparently based on the 'Boz Session(s)' taking place prior to Ian Paice being auditioned & hired as Clarke's replacement).
 Regarding the 'Sundragon Session(s), I've seen/read that it was the entire 'instrumental' section of the fledgling Roundabout/Deep Purple, with only Evans not participating - Evans also apparently didn't take part of either the 'Boz' or 'Sundragon' session(s)...maybe he [Evans] hadn't been auditioned & hired by Roundabout/Deep Purple yet?

 
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 Ritchie Blackmore played guitar on the following tracks:
Sun Dragon - Five White Horses 2:32
 Others may have been involved with the other tracks mentioned, as I've never been very interested in the details of Sundragon, so I'd kind of like to know myself...



 Yup, nearly morbid curiousity is what's compelling me to find out more details & plus, I just like seeing and/or learning more details concerning the earliest days of Roundabout/Deep Purple...anyway, one of my first searches regarding 'Sundragon' has yielded up these:

http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/sundragon.htm

Q: Did you use Mk1 to play on your other productions while they were at Deeves Hall?

DL: "The guys played on several things for me during that time i.e. Boz, Dragonfly [sic!] and others." - from "The Derek Lawrence Interview"" with the Deep Purple Appreciation Society" in 2003.

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By the way, I had never noticed that Boz Burell played bass on Jon Lord's Before I forget...

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 Perhaps there's someone whom owns this:

http://www.purplerecords.net/prepurple/prepurple.htm

 and they'll be kind enough to share whatever specifics the booklet contains?


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I finally dug out the album in question, Ed.

BOZ: "[...] Blackmore [...] played the lead guitar on it [the session which produced both sides of the single]." + "Jon Lord was also offered a session fee for it." + "The drummer may have been Ian Paice, but Carlo Little is a possibility according to Nick Simper. The backing band were rounded out by Chas Hodges on bass and a string section arranged by Del Newman. The tracks finally found a home on Columbia DB 8406 in May [of 1968], probably the rarest Boz single of them all. Both numbers were Bob Dylan covers. [...] The vocals were double tracked and Lawrence added an "arranged by Jon Lord" credit on the label. Lawrence did three more tracks with Boz shortly afterwards but using a full orchestra instead of the Purple players."

SUNDRAGON (singers Robert Freeman and Anthony James): "Once again he [D. Lawrence] offered the sessions fees to Blackmore, Paice and Lord who cut the tracks in the late summer of '68. The album finished, a truly awful sleeve was hastily out together and the LP came out at the end of 1968 (MGM C 8090)."

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 Many thanks, Rezster!

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My pleasure Ed-Meister!
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quote:

MrEd45 wrote:

 Perhaps there's someone whom owns this:

http://www.purplerecords.net/prepurple/prepurple.htm

 and they'll be kind enough to share whatever specifics the booklet contains?



I had forgotten this compilation. Great one. I'm listening to it.



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