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Re: The Fire Dance Rages On


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Well, Ian Gillan have re-used the sentence "We all came down to Montreux". It's in both SOTW and Hungry Daze. emoticon

And I'm sure Ian Paice have been using the snare drum on all Deep Purple albums. Shame on you, little Ian! emoticon



Yeah, and Gillan introduced both "Hard Lovin' Woman" and "69" with the same line: "It has nothing to do with sex..." Auto-plagia.

By the way, I have the feeling that Michael Jackson always use the same beat in his songs, and that Madonna always dances the same way.

Oh! and there's nothing that sounds more like a Sex Pistols song than annother Sex Pistols song.

And Jimmy Page often use the same oriental tones in his guitazr playing.

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....and you wrote 'and' alot, too!



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 'the group [Rainbow] were were fully into "Man On The Silver Mountain". I noticed at the beginning of the number that Ritchie hesitated for a while and walked over to Bain. "That was because I forgot the bloody thing ," he [Blackmore] said later "it's [MOTSM]vaguely similer to "Smoke On The Water" - Pete Makowski talking with and about Ritchie Blackmore in Sounds, September 11th, 1976

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But I can't stop wondering why Mr Glover didn't say to Mr Blackmore: "Hey, this one's been used before!".




Indeed, he would have had to say it so many times before: "Burn", "Black Night", "Child in Time", even "Smoke on the Water" if my recollection is correct...



One reflection on this, with a totally different example in mind: Bob Dylan's "Planet Waves" ends side A with a song called "Forever Young". Side B opens with a song called "Forever Young". The chords are the same, the lyrics are he same. If this is enough to make it the same song, then why would an excellent songwriter like Bob Dylan put the same song twice on the same album? It sure wasn't for lack of new ideas! So why?

My own answer would be that because the tempo and rythm are all different (the B side version takes half the time of the A side version) this is no longer the same song. One could argue that no, it's the same song just a different version, and I hear you. But I wouldn't really agree, not in this case anyway. To me those are two different songs. They communicate totally different meanings.

Point being, I don't think similarities in riffs and chords are enough to state that one song is recycled. You can't really recycle a song, it's either the same song or it isn't. It doesn't matter too much what chords you play, it's how you play them.
Literally hundreds of great hits from the sixties onwards are build on the simple C -am - F - G scheme. It doesn't all make them the same song! Have ye ever thought that Elton John's "Crocodile Rock" has very much in common with "Oh Carol"? "Stand By Me"?

If I'm wrong here, please tell me how many blues tunes are actually written througout history - is it three or is it four?


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