HOBL underrated? https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/t13199 Runboard| HOBL underrated? en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:14:43 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:14:43 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523606,from=rss#post523606https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523606,from=rss#post523606It's a bit strange with HoBL for me. When it came out, I loved it and saw them on 5 shows on the 87 tour (as I tried to sing louder than Big Ian my voice was lost for two weeks then ). The only thing I was missing was a real guitar roar on at least one of the pieces. When I listened to it years later it didn't survive a complete spin. I perceived the sound as far too 80ies-like, e. g. Jon's synths on Mad Dog gave me the creeps. Outstanding tracks to me are Bad Attitude (however, it didn't really translate to stage in my humble opinion) and Mitzi Dupree. But most of the others are children of the 80ies and didn't age well. If this is what you call "poor production" - well, then we are on the same track. However, from today's view I'd also say that this was when Ritchie very openly started recycling snippets from older songs. Just look at the Dead or Alive solo vs Gypsy's Kiss solo.nondisclosed_email@example.com (BlueWhite77)Mon, 24 Jan 2022 08:38:16 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523605,from=rss#post523605https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523605,from=rss#post523605I remember the Circus magazine. The headline was Purple Cut a Classic.nondisclosed_email@example.com (doggone)Sun, 23 Jan 2022 18:41:14 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523603,from=rss#post523603https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523603,from=rss#post523603It is a great album. More rocking than PS. There are a few of us on this forum that think this way. Poor production brings it down. DOA is an excellent closer. Way better than Hungry Daze. All in all, a less safe album than PS, but more like classic DP. nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Sun, 23 Jan 2022 07:34:42 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523601,from=rss#post523601https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p523601,from=rss#post523601Always love it myself. Better than PS, although nothing beats the title track and KAYBD from that album. For years I've searched for a particular review of the album- I believe it was from Circus magazine where they call the album a classic. Deep Purple Cut a Classic or something like that. I'd like to read that in 2022!nondisclosed_email@example.com (LORDLESS)Sat, 22 Jan 2022 19:38:13 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476126,from=rss#post476126https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476126,from=rss#post476126Some elements of the 1980s style production have aged very well. Like Lord's fat synth chords in the chorus of Unwritten Law - actually, that track is excellent in every respect. Gotta put the album on again, now!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Thu, 16 Jan 2014 07:22:52 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476106,from=rss#post476106https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476106,from=rss#post476106Hopefully if they do remix/remaster it, they go off the original cd version with the longer song lengths. I bought the remastered one in '99 but kept my original...glad I did. I ended up selling the remastered one to a used shop.nondisclosed_email@example.com (RatBatBlu)Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:36:17 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476095,from=rss#post476095https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476095,from=rss#post476095I love the album. It's probably true that it would benefit from a Glover remix/remaster as the production is very 80's. But the songs are there. It's the album that introduced me to the band and I remember that after PS it wasn't really what everybody expected. But it has a certain "progressive" attitude that is so much "purple".nondisclosed_email@example.com (fdr)Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:18:49 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476090,from=rss#post476090https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476090,from=rss#post476090Yeah, Ritchie's bit cracked me up Gillan sounded dreadful during Unwritten Law I agree w/Mad Dog; it wasn't a song I latched onto at first, but as the years have gone by its definitely become a favorite. The only song I don't really care for is Hard Lovin' Woman and I don't dislike it enough to skip it. nondisclosed_email@example.com (RatBatBlu)Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:27:42 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476089,from=rss#post476089https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476089,from=rss#post476089Classic, that Whistle Test bit. "This is what we all came for" -> SOTW. Gotta love Blackmore's humour there, too ("so it makes for a nice change"). EDIT: The lady says it all of Deep Purple with Blackmore. The secret is to keep the fans begging for that little bit more. Like a good mistress! Overall, Gillan is excellent on this album (but not exactly in that live clip), both vocals and lyrics (no doubt Glover had a hand in there) are among his finest. Brilliant. Mad Dog is a song I've started to appreciate more and more.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:16:37 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476085,from=rss#post476085https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476085,from=rss#post476085I personally never liked the album. And considered it big let down after PS. It just sounds bad. Gillan is struggling, Paice is very loud but sound is very eighies.   The best songs spanish archer and strangeways are more like extended improvisations. I also like bad attitude and dead or alive. Some songs are destroyed by wrong arrangement - unwritten law. Mitze dupree, black and white, call of the white, hard loving woman are fillers. But the best tracks are not good enought to compensate fillers. Thats why I consider TBRO better album just TBRO, Anya and Solitare compensate for lick it up one mans meat or twist in a tale much better for me than spanish archer and strangeways on Hobl. For me it is easily the worst MK II album. nondisclosed_email@example.com (TomekKDP)Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:59:17 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476067,from=rss#post476067https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p476067,from=rss#post476067BBC Whistle Testnondisclosed_email@example.com (RatBatBlu)Wed, 15 Jan 2014 02:09:19 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p475988,from=rss#post475988https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p475988,from=rss#post475988Gillan's HoBL diarynondisclosed_email@example.com (RatBatBlu)Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:55:05 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p475980,from=rss#post475980https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p475980,from=rss#post47598027 years old today. Released January 12, 1987. In other news, Led Zeppelin's first album is 45 years old today.nondisclosed_email@example.com (RatBatBlu)Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:05:51 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p473907,from=rss#post473907https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p473907,from=rss#post473907I think Bad Attitude, The Unwritten Law and Call of the Wild are really well crafted songs.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Tue, 05 Nov 2013 06:43:47 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p473894,from=rss#post473894https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p473894,from=rss#post473894Dead Or Alive is a great track toonondisclosed_email@example.com (unsubtleshed)Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:33:03 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p422650,from=rss#post422650https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p422650,from=rss#post422650I´ll find it pretty good and it´s really way too underrated.nondisclosed_email@example.com (anonymman)Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:46:42 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p422573,from=rss#post422573https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p422573,from=rss#post422573Like all the reunion albums some real classy nuggets hidden among the dross. Imagine the 7 minute plus Strangeways done live?? And where but Spanish Archer do we get Blackmore going for broke and basically stringing a load of guitar solos together into a song? (Glorious...) mitzi?- well doesn't work in the context of the album, but if it had been a b-side or an outake we'd have all surely commended its raw, demo-like sound.nondisclosed_email@example.com (harryurz)Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:57 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p419010,from=rss#post419010https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p419010,from=rss#post419010looking back it's ok isn't it? Most tracks are listenable at least. It's probably at least as good as TBRO...which for some reason get good press.nondisclosed_email@example.com (spotlight dad)Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:27:03 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408187,from=rss#post408187https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408187,from=rss#post408187This album needs a very good sound system... I can agree to that.nondisclosed_email@example.com (sail away)Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:11:58 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408186,from=rss#post408186https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408186,from=rss#post408186  nondisclosed_email@example.com (sail away)Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:09:21 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408176,from=rss#post408176https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408176,from=rss#post408176Remastering this piece of sh1t won't save it-bad is bad and HOBL is BAD.B-A-D. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Boulder Bolin)Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:39:03 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408125,from=rss#post408125https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408125,from=rss#post408125quote:Rezi wrote: Still, a remix could do the album much good. That is an excellent idea, except if we need to wait 30 years for it. Can you imagine, in the world charts of 2017: "And now, a classic remastered: Bad Attitude, by a band called Deep Purple..."nondisclosed_email@example.com (Al Erikson)Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:13:33 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408120,from=rss#post408120https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408120,from=rss#post408120I gave the album a spin yesterday and it sounded much better than the last time. That's the opposite to many other experiences with old albums and bands. In the latter case, you remember something being really good and when you listen to it now, you are disappointed. I'm glad HOBL sounds better now. The performances are very good. It was corking to hear a Lord synth backing on one of the tracks, and realising just how trademark stuff it is - one's just accustomed to hear it done on the Hammond! Still, a remix could do the album much good.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rezi)Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:16:31 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408114,from=rss#post408114https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408114,from=rss#post408114Q: HOBL underrated? A: Yes nondisclosed_email@example.com (MrEd45)Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:36:42 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408077,from=rss#post408077https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408077,from=rss#post408077quote:Purple should have called it a day here. It's too obvious they had nothing new to say. They had run out of ideas. But they didn't, and thank goodness! I think Blackmore might have been out of ideas, but if you are an open minded Purple fan, the Morse era albums, or at least three of the Morse era albums are full of great "ideas" and have plenty to say. Heck even Gillan had plenty to say on TBRO, but thats just my opinion. Cheers!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Ormandy)Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:07:08 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408076,from=rss#post408076https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408076,from=rss#post408076I like the album way better than PS. The songs are tighter; the riffs more solid; the sound is way more like DP than the generic sounding PS, which could have passed for any number of hard rock/heavy metal albums from various artists at the time. The songs rock. 'Mad Dog' is a hot track, as is 'DOA'. Both of those tunes have more Blackmore/Lord interaction than the entire PS album. 'Spanish Archer' is pretty cool and 'Strangeways' is kind of unusual, but has some decent Blackmore soloing. 'Anya' is a remake of that tune, basically. The opening track is a slam-dunk and 'HLW' is a pretty fun track, as is 'COTW'. My only problems with the album were Gillan's voice and 'Mitzi Dupree'. A basically crummy song showcasing Gillan's mostly shot voice. He sounded like he was singing over sandpaper. In a way, though, his voice being shot actually was a plus for the album. He didn't try to sing like MKIIa Gillan because he couldn't, which was a problem on PS. It was on this album that he started to change his singing style, albeit because he had no choice. He was much improved on TBRO. In all, HOBL out-rocked PS. Is was way faster, more up-tempo than PS, which I thought was just too mid-tempo for the most part. It harkened back to the Purple of old with more solid riffs and non-generic sound. You knew that it was Purple from the opening riff. PS could have been made by any generic hard rock band of the era. I see HOBL as a progression from MKIIa, where I don't see PS fitting in anywhere except as the reunion album. As I have stated before, had they gotten HOBL out in a reasonable amount of time, late '85 or early '86 at the latest, I think that they would have continued their success from PS and we would have seen a longer-lasting and more stable MKIIb. Maybe no JLT or Morse marks, at least not as they happened. Maybe replacements coming in as members retired, as Airey came in for Lord. Either way, that is my take on the subject. nondisclosed_email@example.com (JSA1)Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:58:02 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408018,from=rss#post408018https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408018,from=rss#post408018In the big world outside this forum...! nondisclosed_email@example.com (niji)Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:08 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408006,from=rss#post408006https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408006,from=rss#post408006Credibility where...?nondisclosed_email@example.com (sail away)Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:43:15 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408004,from=rss#post408004https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p408004,from=rss#post408004quote:Boulder Bolin wrote: Some posts on page two reflect my sentiments perfectly;HOBL was a true stinker and is frequently overrated by many posters here.It was BAD in '86 and it still sounds bad in 2007,but thats just my opinion. CHEERS True, it was a stinker then and even worse now. At least it had a contemporary production but the 80s stuff hasn't aged well. The sterile drums, the cheesy synths etc. It's just NOT what DP is about. It really wouldn't be that bad if only there were some memorable songs, but there isn't. There are about 5 listenable songs here, but while not groundbreaking or extraordinary in any way it's the other tracks that are incredibly lame that makes the album the stinker it is. Purple should have called it a day here. It's too obvious they had nothing new to say. They had run out of ideas. It should have been a farewell EP. That way they still would have had some credibility and it would have saved us embarrassments like S&M and TBRO. nondisclosed_email@example.com (niji)Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:22:26 +0000 Re: HOBL underrated?https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p407998,from=rss#post407998https://bdeeppurplefanforum.runboard.com/p407998,from=rss#post407998Some posts on page two reflect my sentiments perfectly;HOBL was a true stinker and is frequently overrated by many posters here.It was BAD in '86 and it still sounds bad in 2007,but thats just my opinion. CHEERSnondisclosed_email@example.com (Boulder Bolin)Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:13:56 +0000