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posticon Axe through RG's door anyone?


Anyone know of the incident during the making of 'Fireball' when RB was supposed to have planted an axe through RG's bedroom door in the middle of the night thus scaring the s**t out of Roger? I think the band were staying in an isolated house at the time.
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I hadn't heard that one, but I heard the one about Ritchie putting his speakers next to the wall of someone's bedroom (Gillan's I think) and started making odd noises through them.

I think these were jokes rather than spiteful attacks!
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 "We decided that the group should find somewhere to rehearse that was away from the bustle of London, journalists, photographers, etc. and so a large house near the small town of Welcombe on the North Devon coast was found and rented. We moved into The Hermitage as the weather turned cold and rainy.
 "It had been converted from a single dwelling into several flats by someone. The Instruments were put in a centrally located room and the business of setting up home in the draughty house was tackled. Wives and girlfriends came and went but initially, Ian Gillan and his girlfriend Zoe shared a large room with Jon and Judith Lord and their baby daughter Sara. Ritchie and Babs Blackmore had their own room, as did Ian Paice and his girlfriend, Wendy. Still single, I shared a kitchen with Ron Quinton...it was cold and damp so whatever fireplaces the house had were constantly in use, necessitating the need for fuel. A cord of logs was delivered but when that ran out, various pieces of furniture were eyed less than aesthetically, many of which seemed to disappear mysteriously.
 "Seances were part of the scene and one night I found myself chasing Ritchie around the house with a broken chair leg in my hand. I'm not a violent man by nature, but imagine yourself lying in bed, reading, at about three in the morning, when an axe head smashes through your door, disappears, then smashes again and again, making matchwood of it. I leapt up in my underwear, and went for him as he disappeareddown the corridor. I found him hiding in a darkened part of the house and stopped mercifully short of clubbing him to death. I was in such a rage after he'd reduced my bedroom door to splinters; the result, presumably, of me refusing to lend Wendy or him a crucifix, something they'd both been pestering me about earlier. I wanted nothing to do with the seance they were conducting in the next room. It had apparently taken control of their senses - or maybe mine! That night might have been the end of the band..." - Roger Glover, from "A Bass Player Writes..." in the liner notes for the "Fireball: 25th Anniversary Edition" booklet.



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MrEd45, Thank you for posting this.


You have managed to broach the subject of what I've sort of believed for a long time, but been unable to say, was a possible and highly likely cause of the Deep Purple "Tragedy".

A comment like this had to come from a member of the band and be in the public domain, and ideally NOT one of IG or RB.

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"Seances were part of the scene .....

.....the result, presumably, of me refusing to lend Wendy or him a crucifix, something they'd both been pestering me about earlier.

I wanted nothing to do with the seance they were conducting in the next room. It had apparently taken control of their senses - or maybe mine! That night might have been the end of the band..." - Roger Glover, from "A Bass Player Writes..." in the liner notes for the "Fireball: 25th Anniversary Edition" booklet.




It explains just about everything.
Well to me anyway.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.


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Thanks aswell Mr Ed45.
I'm not as shocked though, as someone had told me they had read it in a mag about one year ago but they couldn't remember the detail. The way it was described to me was in a light-hearted way and (Posh) I never guessed that it could have had such a negative effect on the band.

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.... I never guessed that it could have had such a negative effect on the band....



It would very much depend upon the people involved. I do believe this sort of thing can have an effect, and not necessarily a positive one. Also some people are more sensitive to it than others. Added to which there were considerable volumes of alcohol doing the rounds (hic! emoticon ) .....

A nigh on lethal combination.

I am suprised they all came out of this phase alive, and relatively sane. We can be certain, from the public record, they were certainly NOT all sober.

I cannot explain simply how I see Deep Purple and the people involved, but if I could, it might go a long way to explaining why I hold Steve Morse in such high regard. And before anyone leaps on that, it has got NOTHING to do with him as a guitar player.

He has got a good vibe around him. He is a nice guy. That is why they need him, and rely on him being around, and do what they do.

Someone described him on here once as "good medicine". I would go along with that 100%.

That's not saying the others are not good guys, but you take a big risk when you go dabbling....

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"That night might have been the end of the band..." - Roger Glover

 Well, POS, I guess that statement certainly does lend itself to various forms of interpretation, doesn't it?
 For myself, I took it to mean that had Glover not restrained himself and "stopped mercifully short of clubbing him (Blackmore) to death" (which I took to mean that Glover didn't strike Blackmore at all) that beating Blackmore with a broken-off table leg likely would've brought about the end of Deep Purple MkII a lot sooner than the end came about, anyway.
 As far as some of the other tensions that were going on, I've always got the feeling that most of the tension was created - in part - by management, who were anxious to capitalize and keep capitalizing as much and as soon as possible from the publicity and thus higher gate receipts that were accruing - particularly in the U.K., at that point - in the wake of the huge success that was "In Rock" and the subsequent interest in Deep Purple as the most incredible live concert experience going. The other part of the tension came, in my opinion, from the ego-battle between Blackmore + Gillan. I think it's pretty much common knowledge that it was around this time that Blackmore began - in earnest, as compared to previous times - to feel that he was the dominant force in the band and should receive the lion's share of credit - both critical and financial. He saw himself as the 'leader' of the group, whereas that 'honor' had been given, at least in the media, to Jon Lord. It's speculated that perhaps Gillan wasn't as dferential to Blackmore as Blackmore thought Gillan ought to be, and this may have been the genesis of the strain between them. Again, I leave it to Roger Glover to shed some illumination on the matter - from Glover's perspective, anyway...
"Ian (Gillan) seemed to go off the rails with attitude and drink problems. He and Ritchie were at complete loggerheads and Ian may have got to the point where he thought, 'I'm the singer and if Ritchie can behave like that (like a prima donna, I imagine - MrEd), so can I.' So he (Gillan) became just as big an arsehole." - Roger Glover, from A Bass Player Writes in the liner notes for "Fireball - The 25th Anniversary Edition" booklet.

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Speaking about the management I remember Gillan told how the two managers used this trick to keep the members separated, one of them took Roger and Jon to have lunch somewhere and the other took Ritchie and Paicey somewhere else and Ian was always left alone because he was seen as the main troublemaker. And when they got together again after lunch the others had already came to an agreement about the subject of the argument and of course Gillan had no idea about it and he was the only one who disagreed.
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quote:

MrEd45 wrote:

"That night might have been the end of the band..." - Roger Glover

Well, POS, I guess that statement certainly does lend itself to various forms of interpretation, doesn't it?



Yup, agree 100%. As you say it certainly does lend itself to various forms of interpretation!
However, there is nothing in your post/quote that obviously contradicts my very strong feelings concerning some of the issues that were “swirling” around the members of the band at the time (séances, alcohol and the like). I feel the net effect of these activities, and the stress of becoming an effective overnight mega-success, was to magnify their individual weaknesses, and bring out their worst traits: insecurity, inferiority, jealousy, morbidity ….

All of which seems to have led to rampant competitive egotism between 2 of them. Once these problems were out in the open, these same weaknesses were exploited by the others around them for their own ends.

I am NOT going down another of my favourite themes. Suffice it to say, I believe there are also serious issues of “unrequited love” and “heartbreak” tucked away in there somewhere!

This tragedy: “The Great DP Tragedy” is one of almost Greek Myth proportions! And they say it is “only Rock and Roll”!


So my perspective, as always, is:

I am thankful that today
a) they’re all still here
b) they’re relatively sane and sober (emoticon Hic!)
c) they’re still active, and doing new things


BTW: The reason I rate Steve Morse as a person is, because, although as a performer you must have a strong sense of “ego” to stand up there on stage and do the business, he somehow manages to come over as having this comparative lack of ego, which no doubt helps to make him a good band member.

I know it is a very controversial opinion on this here forum, but I actually LIKE the fact that he smiles emoticon. He is what they needed at the time. I imagine he has probably done his colleagues an enormous amount of good just by being there. Rather than magnifying their weaknesses, perhaps he has gone a long way to mollifying and reducing them? He was definitely the “Right person in the right place at the right time” - for them as people.

Final point:

If we’re into discussing séances, how about star signs then?
Do you realise that somehow they manage to perform a minor miracle when on tour?

You try getting 2 Leos to share the same spotlight on the same stage ……… Wow!

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Waits for tons and tons and tons of bricks to land on her from a very great height………….


Already commencing major evasive manoeuvres!

Where’s my trusty old tin hat?
B*gger, left it in a ditch when I had to abandon my dugout on the Polish border in a bit of a hurry late one moon-less night last month ……………… emoticon

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POS Wrote:
'issues that were “swirling” around the members of the band at the time (séances, alcohol and the like)'

Surely this was just a phase - a morbid facination that was played out. They're all a lot older and wiser now so I don't see the need for Morse to be such a stabalising force that you say he is (Maybe if he was around in 71, thats a different matter) emoticon
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