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Re: FANTASTIC show in Sweden last night


Not the case - a single coil is a type of guitar pickup. In principle the comment is correct, in the sense that a typical single coil as you would see on a Strat is clearer but less powerful than a humbucker as you would find typically in a Gibson - this gives more clarity and definition at the expense of volume and power.
However, Blackers is using some rail pickup (SD or Bill Lawrence, or god knows what else) that is a humbucker in a single coil structure/size.
I would say that is not the problem, if he wanted to achieve a grittier sound. More likely, he wants to play clean. And that is not necessarily smart, because it emphasizes every mistake and bum note.

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Ptr, I get what you are saying in your second point and to some extent agree, but Stefan72 already answered - that was not the plan, I guess he does not want to deal with egos for a handful of shows.
On your other comment: in principle I would have no problem if he was on a stool for at least part of the show, but it’s not gonna happen. Ritchie was always very aware of his stage persona...why do you think he still has long dark “hair” at 74? Because that fits his idea of rock concerts, and in that light sitting on a stool is a no-no. It works for BN, not for a rock gig.
Besides, and this is a technicality for guitar players, if you always practice seated and then play standing, your sync is bound to be somewhat off, because the guitar is at a completely different height and the fretting arm has another angle...



Yes Ritchie was always aware of his stage image. However, at his age -74 years old he already lost the race decades ago. He doesn't look as cool as he used to and he doesn't run around the stage smashing strats either. (Note that I don't expect him to do this.) He is an old man and is allowed to look and act his age. That's why it's so ridiculous of him to think he couldn't sit down.
What difference would it make? He already slowed down and reduced his movements on stage. Sitting down would just be a tiny step more. If it meant a better performance and less pain for him we would all be winners.
 
Robert Fripp has been sitting down since the late 60s. No problem. Leslie West sits in a wheelchair on stage and rocks much harder than Ritchie. Now if Ritchie thinks he "has" to stand up to look cool -fine. But don't use it as an excuse for not being able to play good. It's just poor judgement from his side, just like he thinks his hairpiece could possibly fool anyone...
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Actually Bagshot, it is a matter of opinion. As a wise old guitar teacher told me a long time ago, people have different opinions on music. Some folks may think a piece of music is great while someone else will think it stinks. It is a matter of using your own ears. I like listening to MIRI, Live in Birmingham and MIRII. Do I think it's RB at his best, not by a long shot. Do I like the music, yes! Do I like the way RB plays in some of the songs, yes again. If RB were to play a few shows close to where I live, I would definitely go. If you can't see my opinion for what it is, that's OK with me. By the way, after almost 50 years of listening to DP full blast, my hearing is fine. emoticon Have a great day!!

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Not the case - a single coil is a type of guitar pickup. In principle the comment is correct, in the sense that a typical single coil as you would see on a Strat is clearer but less powerful than a humbucker as you would find typically in a Gibson - this gives more clarity and definition at the expense of volume and power.
However, Blackers is using some rail pickup (SD or Bill Lawrence, or god knows what else) that is a humbucker in a single coil structure/size.
I would say that is not the problem, if he wanted to achieve a grittier sound. More likely, he wants to play clean. And that is not necessarily smart, because it emphasizes every mistake and bum note.



I agree, his current playing would be much more effective with a bit of drive and sustain. In the past he’s had big amplifiers to assist, as you say, this clean approach is unforgiving


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Not the case - a single coil is a type of guitar pickup. In principle the comment is correct, in the sense that a typical single coil as you would see on a Strat is clearer but less powerful than a humbucker as you would find typically in a Gibson - this gives more clarity and definition at the expense of volume and power.
However, Blackers is using some rail pickup (SD or Bill Lawrence, or god knows what else) that is a humbucker in a single coil structure/size.
I would say that is not the problem, if he wanted to achieve a grittier sound. More likely, he wants to play clean. And that is not necessarily smart, because it emphasizes every mistake and bum note.



I agree, his current playing would be much more effective with a bit of drive and sustain. In the past he’s had big amplifiers to assist, as you say, this clean approach is unforgiving





But exactly that is what he doesn't want anymore.
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Stefan and DesperateHeart:

Blackmore's sound/ tone is fabulous as usual but his amplification has nothing at all to do with the way he is playing at all, in my view. Sure he could have a noisy, distorted sound, but that would make the problem much much worse not better, more volume/drive/distortion and then we's simply hear even more of the mistakes he's making and the erroneous noises.

Simple case is, he's 74, he admits to arthritis and says it effects his back and his hands, which doubtless also means his wrists as well. Playing with arthritis slows him down, his hands no longer do everything he tells them, his right hand is slower than before and it's critical to his playing style. His left hand is not a flexible as it was, his fingers don't obey every instruction. Hence he now fluffs notes, plays bum notes, misses bits and makes mistakes. Also perhaps mentally he's not as with it as before, at 74 he could well have some beginnings of dementia. In Munich, he clears forgets when to play his solo in Smoke on the Water and looks round at Bob and Ronnie as if he expects more vocals, then says to Bob "is it me?" and plays the last bit of the solo when it's all virtually over. He's completely missed the cue there.

So overall changing the amps would make absolutely no difference at all. It's not the tools that have the issue, now it's the workman. Blackmore is clearly struggling in places to make it happen. Anyone with ears can hear this.

Sure Munich playing is better than was Finland but it's still hardly fault free or fluid. Maybe Spain will be better yet, can but hope. It will be interesting to see how he manages to play in Blackmore's Night which tours after this. Some people say he's not "played electric much" and thats why he's not doing well........ thats a nice idea, but largely just nonsense. Hope over reality really.

He has said, in interview, this may be the last outing for Rainbow, due to his arthritis, so maybe it is or maybe not and perhaps he has the sense to know it's time to call it a day now. Quit while you're ahead as they do say!!
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Not necessarily - sticking to legato runs, he could bypass both right-hand and synchronization issues.
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And that's your opinion Bagshot, which is just that, your opinion. You called someone a "Buffoon" in an earlier post. Why? You have no right to put down someone who has a different opinion than you! Maybe some people just like to be able to see their favorite guitar player one more time no matter how well or not he plays and wish to say nothing bad about him. You seem to think your opinion counts more than theirs. Guess what, it doesn't! Neither does mine.



I can agree here. I've seen Blackers plenty of times over the years and it would be nice to see him one more time before he retires. I can get over the sound and accept his limitations. BSB might have a valid point in one way, but I would go just to bookend my by Blackers experience. I've seen him in his prime with RJD and the reformed DP and now a decent ending to a fine career.

As far a BSB's dump analogy, I've used one similar about Gillan. He could come out and just pass gas and fans would say it was the greatest show of flatulence ever and his finest performance ever. Even so, I would probably go to see IG at the end, also. I've stated before that I probably wouldn't pay to see him now days, but I just might for old times sake. Like RB, one last time to relive the good ole days.
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