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Personally i don't think they should have bothered with the reunion, it was about 5 years too late IMHO .They became a parody of their former glories IMHO especially Blackmore and Gillan.



Plenty of people share your opinion, but I love PS & HOBL.
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Ritchie was poor in 85 & early 87. But late 87/88 & 93 the band was on fire. PS & TBRO are both great albums. HOBL would've been great with a proper producer.

I'm glad they reformed.
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They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.
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They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.



Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.
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The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.


I guess the second option would have been a good one. If they had released an album immediately after PS, it could have worked out even worse then HOBL, if they had given themselves more time, it could have worked out better.
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They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.



Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.



Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote.

I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.
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They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.



Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.



Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote.

I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.



Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big.

The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so.
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leelyt wrote:

quote:

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quote:

leelyt wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.



Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.



Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote.

I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.



Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big.

The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so.



I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading

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Personally i don't think they should have bothered with the reunion, it was about 5 years too late IMHO .They became a parody of their former glories IMHO especially Blackmore and Gillan.



Plenty of people share your opinion, but I love PS & HOBL.



I liked the albums too but live they were pretty disappointing IMHO, i actually enjoyed the offshoot bands better ie Gillan,Whitesnake Rainbow
Maybe I expected too much?
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quote:

leelyt wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

quote:

leelyt wrote:

quote:

JSA1 wrote:

They seemed to do enough. Their albums sold fairly well. It looks like they were in decent demand for shows. I would think that playing Wembley meant that they had pretty good popularity. Just because they didn't strike it rich, doesn't mean that they didn't make enough money to have a comfortable life, or at least not have to worry about things. What caused their demise was total mismanagement.



Ticket sales were really good for PS tour. Second highest grossing tour in 85 behind Springsteen so plenty of money was made. The problem was it took almost 2 years to release HOBL, better to have either released an album immediately or go their own separate ways again for 5 years and then do another album/tour.



Oops. I was referring to 'Gillan' and how they could be broke. Forgot to push quote.

I agree with you about the tour and the time it took to release HOBL. They needed to strike while the iron was hot and their popularity was running high, especially in the States. HOBL was a good album, I thought better than PS. A quick follow-up would have kept them in the fore-front here in the US. The problem may have been Gillan. He was fading at the time and I don't know how another album tour so soon would have been good for his voice. The extra time, plus the surgery, made his voice pretty good for the HOBL tour, at least for a while.



Ha, I see. Well Gillan were a hall band who played their last concert at Wembley Arena, which was around 55% full. They never sold enugh tickets or albums in the UK to make big money, and IG has always spent big.

The majority of gigs that I saw Gillan were Nottingham Rock City, Corby Civic Hall, places that hold 600 or so.



I thought they were a bit bigger than that in the UK to be honest?they usually played the Odeon in Edinburgh which held around 2000 . it was a venue that many big bands of the time played including Whitesnake ,ACDC,Maiden,The Who etc.They also headlined Reading



Oy! The way people are talking, it was like they were subsisting on bread and water. I don't know about the UK in the early-mid-eighties, but in the US 25 to 30K a year would get you a decent house, a nice car and enough cash to spend and put some away. I would think that they would have made that much fairly easily.

Either way, IG should have taken care of the band as a whole instead of himself.
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