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Re: Rainbow should be in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame


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WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE RRHOF ?


Wikipedia tells it (I didn't find something about that on the HOF page itself):

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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (...) recognizes and archives the history of the best-known and most influential artists, producers, engineers, and other notable figures who have had some major influence on the development of rock and roll.


So it's clear: It's about influence. Not about who's the longest-serving band or something like that.

Considering this I'd say that only Dio era Rainbow qualify for being inducted. Later Rainbow didn't have recognizeable influence on the development of rock music, they were rather influenced themselves by others considering that two of their greatest hits were Russ Ballard covers.

The question which members of Dio era Rainbow should be inducted I leave to those who know their history better than me. Of course Blackmore, Dio and Powell would have to be inducted, about the others someone else has to think. For a live performance - with only Dio era songs to be performed - I would suggest:

bass - Daisley
keyboards - Carey
drums - Rondinelli
vocals - Bonnet, Turner, White and Romero for one song each. If someone of them refuses to do a Dio song, just let the others sing.



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I would agree with that live performance. I would however sub Glover for Daisley. Daisley was really only there a short period of time and am not sure how much he contributed to writing (It may've been that RB bought a credit from him). However, I think RG earns it alone on DTE and subsequent live [sign in to see URL] to mention he helped write some cool songs (No Release, Spotlight Kid, Death Alley Drive, Stone Cold etc.) during JLT era (who also deserves to be there)...

So for me:

RB
Dio
Powell
RG
JLT

live performance:
RB
JLT/RR
RG
TC
BR
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I pointed out that for the HOF thing it's not for cool songs or whatever, but for influence. I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.

However, I don't know how strictly this point is taken by the HOF themselves. They inducted Rod Evans with DP, and his work in DP didn't have any remarkable influence as well.
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I pointed out that for the HOF thing it's not for cool songs or whatever, but for influence. I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.

However, I don't know how strictly this point is taken by the HOF themselves. They inducted Rod Evans with DP, and his work in DP didn't have any remarkable influence as well.



The "INFLUENCE" thats considered is how it will INFLUENCE attendance to theretourist attraction. Beyond that ......... it#s got f@ck-all to do with anything sensible about music. Like I wrote before IF it was actually about "INFLUENCE" as you chose to describe it then virtually EVRY late 60's early 70's band would be in there as they ALL made a contribution. However mostly the real influences will be ignored in favour of only the BIG names that will sell tickets to the exhibition centre it's housed at.

It's just yet another $$$$$ grab as usual, all dressed up to sound like it's some top drawer "institution", when actually is basically nothing, a pseudo institution, basically drivel for the feeble minded.
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I pointed out that for the HOF thing it's not for cool songs or whatever, but for influence. I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.

However, I don't know how strictly this point is taken by the HOF themselves. They inducted Rod Evans with DP, and his work in DP didn't have any remarkable influence as well.



The "INFLUENCE" thats considered is how it will INFLUENCE attendance to theretourist attraction. Beyond that ......... it#s got f@ck-all to do with anything sensible about music. Like I wrote before IF it was actually about "INFLUENCE" as you chose to describe it then virtually EVRY late 60's early 70's band would be in there as they ALL made a contribution. However mostly the real influences will be ignored in favour of only the BIG names that will sell tickets to the exhibition centre it's housed at.

It's just yet another $$$$$ grab as usual, all dressed up to sound like it's some top drawer "institution", when actually is basically nothing, a pseudo institution, basically drivel for the feeble minded.



Sounds about right to me. I am amazed at how much stock people on here have given to the RRHOF, the only point to it being in existence is to bring money to the local economy.

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I pointed out that for the HOF thing it's not for cool songs or whatever, but for influence. I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.






I would agree with [sign in to see URL] in the 1980s the wave of influential groups seriously [sign in to see URL] pressed I could only point out Metallica, GNR and maybe Motley Crue as truly being [sign in to see URL] that point it had all been done in the rock sense

That said Rainbow deserves to be in!!

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I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.



I'd say bands like Europe were clearly influenced by 80's Rainbow.

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I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.



I'd say bands like Europe were clearly influenced by 80's Rainbow.




And that should be reason enough to not vote them in emoticon
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I still can't see that post-Dio Rainbow had any remarkable influence on the development of rock music.



I'd say bands like Europe were clearly influenced by 80's Rainbow.



I thought it's about rock music ... emoticon
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Don’t care about the Hall of Fame at all. I think it has become a complete joke.
Many of the artists who are there don’t belong there IMO. And there are artists I would like to see that I know will never get in -or like with DP, it takes several years of persuasion to even get them nominated.
And when they finally get in, it’s too late. But really, what does it change? Nothing.

A few years before DP were inducted Jann Wenner said: "It was easy enough in the beginning"..."but at this point, all the clear, obvious people have been inducted, and it comes down to personal taste."
That sums it up well. It’s about personal taste and nothing more.
Rainbow was an influence to many bands. But it’s a small niche and Rainbow is a pretty unknown band for the larger audience. And Wenner and his friends were never fans. That's why they will never get in..
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