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It does seem strange that Aldrich hasn't even heard from DC since this all went down. Not very classy after 12 years of loyal service.

I think it speaks volumes that DC goes from saying "GTBB and FEM are my two favorite WS albums, I play them in the car all the time" to now sort of dismissing the last ten years saying "this is a fresh new start/sound for WS, free from the overdriven guitars". As if that was Doug's fault somehow - he who had pleaded to have the guitars turned down, whereas DC and McIntyre wanted to have them brought up in the mix.

One gets the impression DC basically says anything to promote whatever product he's currently pushing and credibility gets lost as a result. That it's his way or the highway is pretty clear too. That's why you get an EPK which is just basically the band talking about how great DC is. Reb: "it's true, whatever decisions DC takes, he's basically right 98% of the time, it's pretty unbelievable". I mean, come on... it gets shallow. Like the music.
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Why on Earth should DC be reporting to Aldrich? I get the impression you have very little to no experience of business or overall working life. If an employee, or a business partner, quits, that's it. I've never heard of a case where the boss keeps calling to the resigned guy on what going on in the company.

I think it speaks volumes that you know Aldrich hasn't heard from DC. How do you know this? emoticon

It's Coverdale whose credibility is lost? LOL.
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lightintheblack0 wrote:

so are you saying that DC is NOT a decent human being?.
I can't see why people are quite so ready to pounce on DC for what happened and come to the defence of Doug when if truth be told many on this forum didn't really rate him as a player i.e. he was a shredder not suitable for Whitesnake was stated often enough.Suddenly he's gone and its a tragedy/travesty?i don't get ?



How did you jump to that conclusion?!

On the first bit, What I was saying was entirely in response to you 'put yourself in Doug's shoes comment'. Entirely focused on that. Again put yourself in his shoes, and do you really think he is kicking yourself. Do you kick yourself for making decision that bring so many benefits to important areas of your own life?!

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Highly doubt Doug with his nice paying house gig that's just minutes from his house would be bummed about missing out on a covers album. I Might go to Winger in Vegas next week, if I see him I'll ask him.



John H is absolutely spot on!

And on the second point, if you take that as pouncing on DC, then I guess I can't stop you jumping to that conclusion. Or leaping to the fact the end justifies the means in life. I took it as responding to a post with an intelligent response to a point of view (that you would be kicking yourself in Doug's shoes) that I felt a different point of view for.


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I think it speaks volumes that DC goes from saying "GTBB and FEM are my two favorite WS albums, I play them in the car all the time" to now sort of dismissing the last ten years saying "this is a fresh new start/sound for WS, free from the overdriven guitars". As if that was Doug's fault somehow - he who had pleaded to have the guitars turned down, whereas DC and McIntyre wanted to have them brought up in the mix.

One gets the impression DC basically says anything to promote whatever product he's currently pushing and credibility gets lost as a result. That it's his way or the highway is pretty clear too. That's why you get an EPK which is just basically the band talking about how great DC is. Reb: "it's true, whatever decisions DC takes, he's basically right 98% of the time, it's pretty unbelievable". I mean, come on... it gets shallow. Like the music.



I know its going slightly off topic but I was thinking the same! For someone entirely in control of his destiny and the sound then on the one hand I felt disappointed listening to him saying things like this. Of course in part it is human nature to push the positives of the current thing. But in 5 years time he will no doubt reissue FEM and GTTB and applaud how great they are!

On the other I am curious as also a big fan of his, Bolin's and Hughes music what he will do to those songs.Love the man's music but through the media so far I was also thinking why no-body is asking him about Ian Paice and Glenn Hughes when he trots out the Ritchie story. Or the reasons it didn't work. Or asks him about Doug. Maybe someone will soon!




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Also, in regards to JL's alleged (which is probably the operative word here) wish for a DP reunion, DC's choice of words "of course, I'll be there for you" are curious given his no-show at the RAH tribute concert.
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danielb wrote:
I think it speaks volumes that DC goes from saying "GTBB and FEM are my two favorite WS albums, I play them in the car all the time" to now sort of dismissing the last ten years saying "this is a fresh new start/sound for WS, free from the overdriven guitars". As if that was Doug's fault somehow - he who had pleaded to have the guitars turned down, whereas DC and McIntyre wanted to have them brought up in the mix.

One gets the impression DC basically says anything to promote whatever product he's currently pushing and credibility gets lost as a result. That it's his way or the highway is pretty clear too. That's why you get an EPK which is just basically the band talking about how great DC is. Reb: "it's true, whatever decisions DC takes, he's basically right 98% of the time, it's pretty unbelievable". I mean, come on... it gets shallow. Like the music.



I know its going slightly off topic but I was thinking the same! For someone entirely in control of his destiny and the sound then on the one hand I felt disappointed listening to him saying things like this. Of course in part it is human nature to push the positives of the current thing. But in 5 years time he will no doubt reissue FEM and GTTB and applaud how great they are!

On the other I am curious as also a big fan of his, Bolin's and Hughes music what he will do to those songs.Love the man's music but through the media so far I was also thinking why no-body is asking him about Ian Paice and Glenn Hughes when he trots out the Ritchie story. Or the reasons it didn't work. Or asks him about Doug. Maybe someone will soon!





Hopefully we will get some decent interviews covering these topics; so far we've just heard the promo soundbite stuff.

The EPK interview stuff is what it is; promotional material. Didn't you notice Doug getting more vocal about his split from DC when his new album was released? It's just part of the game.



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If an employee, or a business partner, quits, that's it. I've never heard of a case where the boss keeps calling to the resigned guy on what going on in the company.




Very true, but weren't DC and DA also good friends? Hanging out together, having dinner, their wives getting along great, etc? I think DC mentioned that a lot in the past. So if it is true they don't talk anymore now, in that respect it is kind of weird...
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I agree, DC will trash/re evaluate past WS glories when it suits him, eg Donington 90 was suddenly recalled as a ‘splendid’ event or whatever and Vai ‘very much a snake up there’ when he had a Dvd to promote. I could be mistaken but I recall him spending the last 15 years saying how wrong for WS Steve had been!?.

Equally a very good point, how about thanking/reaching out to Ian Paice or Glenn Hughes? For his own selfish reasons DC decided not to attend the RAH event, he wasn’t doing anything at the time if reports are to be believed, other than goofing around on his WS BBS or whatever they call it.

I wish him well with this project but entertaining as his banter is you have to take it with a large pinch of salt.

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Rezi wrote:

If an employee, or a business partner, quits, that's it. I've never heard of a case where the boss keeps calling to the resigned guy on what going on in the company.




Very true, but weren't DC and DA also good friends? Hanging out together, having dinner, their wives getting along great, etc? I think DC mentioned that a lot in the past. So if it is true they don't talk anymore now, in that respect it is kind of weird...



Cheers, I didn't know they were conencted that way. I recall Doogie telling of several instances of him and RB hanging out, but when Doogie resigned from Rainbow, they have not kept contact. It's natural: the bond is formed through work, so when the working relationship ends, it just often happens that the social side of it ends too. I, for one, have no contact - except maybe Facebook - with most of my ex-workmates, because they were workmates. You hang out, avec, when you are workmates but rarely it continues after paths part, even when there is no animosity.

There are a few issues above I don't understand but needed to be answered:

1. Where do we get the information there has been no contact between DC and Aldrich?

2. Why cannot Aldrich make contact with DC if he wants to? Why is it DC's job?

3. How do we know Aldrich wants to be in contact with DC at all? Maybe he is pissed off and wants to have nothing to do with DC, just get his royalty checks.
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I wish him well with this project but entertaining as his banter is you have to take it with a large pinch of salt.




How is that different from 99% of showbiz people? It's not.

As for Vai, Vai said hs joined WS for a wrong reason, to promote his solo album. The songs he could play in his sleep. He did get massive exposure - in fact, DC especially mentions the Vai solo album to the Donnington crowd.

I think Bolin has hinted that he originally was interested in the DP gig solely because of money and exposure for his solo album.

Incidentally, I think that is one reason why Blackmore has chosen to hire unknown people for his bands ever since 1975: they do not have a competing product / profile to his. That, and of course even more because he gets to be the dictator. emoticon
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